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Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Jessica - Dec 17, 2006 6:54:15 am PST #4606 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Finally got around to Lost Room -- what a disappointing last act! I was really loving it up until the very end, and then it just kind of fizzled. After all that talk throughout the series about how using objects has a price, blah blah objects are dangerous, did we mention about the price of using objects and the dangerousnesscakes? there was no price for Joe becoming an object himself??? He just walks into the room, comes out with his daughter, and then drives off into the sunset? It made me wonder if maybe they'd originally planned for a bleaker ending, but the network didn't like it.


sumi - Dec 17, 2006 7:01:01 am PST #4607 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I think that you're probably right. Although I can imagine that if this was a series we would discover what the price is during the show.


Juliebird - Dec 17, 2006 7:02:23 am PST #4608 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Lost Room: I think I would've preferred a bleaker ending as well. Such as Joe walks out with his daughter, and Julianna's character has no idea why she's there or who he is, and Ms. Fanning doesn't remember her father and is carted off to her mother, who as far as she can remember, has been a single mother since her kid was born after a forgettable one-night stand, and Joe is alone in the world, losing everything, so he has to find solace that his daughter is okay now.

and if it was turned into a series, I think the more tragic scenario would lend itself towards that as well (also, it gets Fanning and Marguiles out of the picture)


Juliebird - Dec 17, 2006 7:02:29 am PST #4609 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

sumi - Dec 17, 2006 7:05:19 am PST #4610 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Okay, does Lost Room stuff really need to be whitefonted?

I can totally imagine that not only would Joe's daughter not know him -- but why would she even exist? If his being is no longer part of the dimension that he and Anna etc lived in -- why would she exist?

Or, it could be that what happened with the incident is that the original occupant got taken out of his own dimension and thrown into one in which he didn't exist. Perhaps, what could happen to Joe is that even though he thinks he's okay, actually at any moment he could be tossed into other versions of that reality.


§ ita § - Dec 17, 2006 7:26:22 am PST #4611 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Joe's daughter would exist because she was in the room at the time. His GF wouldn't remember him.

I agree with the assessment that there wasn't enough pain in the ending. Getting her back, but markedly on the run from the other factions, perhaps. But they were all left hanging.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 17, 2006 10:20:41 am PST #4612 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Well, Joe is on the run for history's most poorly executed frame job (seriously, cops didn't check Ruper for powder burns, notice him emptying his bank accounts, bailing on his wife, and leaving a trail of traumatized police behind him?) and kidnapping the Fanning spawn. That won't make for an idyllic child-raising environment, though it's not directly a price of becoming an object.


§ ita § - Dec 17, 2006 11:22:46 am PST #4613 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But I don't think they punched that up enough.


Polter-Cow - Dec 17, 2006 11:53:35 am PST #4614 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Just a note for all the SPN fans: I'm almost done watching S1.

"Salvation" kicked ass. It's a shame that most shows only end up delivering episodes like this at the end of the season, but I'm glad to have gotten one. I was practically on the edge of my seat when Sam and Dean were trying to stop the Demon, and I may have let out an almost inaudible "Whoa" when Dean saved the baby ONE SECOND BEFORE THE CRIB LIT AFIRE.


Polter-Cow - Dec 17, 2006 4:46:30 pm PST #4615 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

For those interested, I have weighed in on Supernatural.