Dunno what he'd do--most of the adult men they meet are either victims or ignorant cops, which rather limits the options.

Sarcastic pop-culture spouting villain role?

I have seen those pictures! Bheerfan on LJ, I think, had them.

looks up pictures and brain explodes...

I so don't get Kara's secret pain. She makes no sense to me, and that makes me impatient with her emotional arc.

I get her secret pain regarding her time with Leoben, and the little kid she thought was her own, but I do not at all get the hostility she's directing at Apollo, or at poor Anders, for that matter. I mean, what did he do, other than love and marry her? I can get her feeling differently about men/sex/love/marriage after her captivity, and being generally wrong-in-the-head, but if you don't want him? Don't take/have him, Starbuck. That said, when she got out of bed with Anders at the beginning of the episode, after Scott and I stopped laughing, I may have announced she was my TV girlfriend.

I still have most of season 2 to watch, so I spent much of last night's episode wondering what I'm missing between Kara and Lee. I've known there was heat, and probably sex along the way, and I understand her history with his brother, but from what I've seen, she's always the one who spurns Lee (in our catching up, we've just recently watched the one where she shagged Baltar and called him Lee).

Anyhow, my point, and I do have one, is to say it's a little worrisome to see people who have been watching say the same thing.

I don't understand her marrying Anders immediately after having that night with Apollo, so I don't understand that particular pain. Was he still suppose to yell, "I, Lee Adama, love Kara Thrace," right after he got sucker punched with news of her wedding. And I'm sorry, but how far up his own ass is Bill Adama's head, that he couldn't tell Lee was left breathless with the news of the marriage.

It was a little odd for this Buffygurl to be hoping Apollo would spank Starbuck's inner moppet by way of beating the hell out of her, last night.

And poor D. She knows. I've read enough commentary on things I've missed to understand that Apollo/D is that love that 'all of a sudden', but I still feel sorry for her, because she's such an Adama fangurl.

Whatever happened to Billy?

I was trying to figure out why the particular boxers were fighting who they were fighting. Still can't figure Helo and Apollo: maybe Helo was pissed that Lee let himself go? Maybe Helo was pissed over some tension we never saw with Lee being resistant over Athena being his wife, and then getting commissioned as part of the fleet, and then coming up with the idea to exterminate all Cylons? Okay, that last I can see, cuz it forced Helo and Athena into a bad place for a bit. Rewatching, and it seems like it was Lee who had chosen Helo -just the impression I get from Helo's and Kara's comments- so maybe it's Lee who is pissed that his plan for removing the Cylon threat was thwarted by Helo. Okay. Watching some more, and based on the way the flashbacks of Kara and Lee were almost used in replace of Lee and Kara's actual opponents (Helo and Hotdog respectively), it now seems that in the end, it's All. About. Kara & Lee (4EVA!). In conclusion, Helo was Lee's random stand-in for Kara.

I'll console myself (and all of you who had to read the above) by saying it was for ALL of the reasons above :/

Chief and Adama? I wonder if they were fighting each other for the same reason as the other: anger at being allowed/allowing him to live on NC? (Chief's face of joy when he got the go-ahead was wonderful, I just had to put my hand up to block Cally's ridiculous face from ruining the pure emotion coming from Aaron Douglas).

Oh, and yes, as much as Dee has annoyed me, my heart went out to her as I watched her understanding all that was going on between Kara and Lee. And then the final shot of Anders and her standing together, both brokenhearted... *guh*

Other things I loved:

-Cottle really getting into the boxing, throwing little punches at the air

-Kara's soft smile up on the catwalk when she first gets to the "arena" (hangar deck? maintenance bay?)

-that Kat was heard but not seen eta "aw crap, there she is"

Billy was shot in season 2. (I edited because I couldn't decide if Cindy really wanted to know.)

Well, if I am understanding things correctly that night was the only time that she and Lee had sex. And it makes NO SENSE to me that she would either turn around and marry Anders at that point or do the other thing and give up Anders for Lee.

Oh and the preview on demand is up and is COMPLETELY different than the promo shown on tv or the one that was up on the scifi site last night.

Also, interesting.

I think Kara marrying Anders was her running away from a powerful and scary love. She loves Anders and he her, but it's a nice love, uncomplicated (their marriage did grow on me this season), and now I'm wondering if one of the reasons she's so scared to actualize something with Lee is because it IS so explosive and sometimes violent, and keeps bringing up her childhood with an abusive mother???

But deep down, I still think she's frightened of them (K/L) together because she knows that he loves her so much, and she doesn't think she deserves that (and for whatever reason, the level of love she shares with Anders doesn't bring up that insecurity, or maybe it's that the "love/in love" thing was never an issue with her and Sam (from her end).

I can see her marriage to Sam as an extreme version of "Dance with Lee, sleep with Baltar to escape sleeping with Lee, although I really want to".

I think it also ties into the conversation/confrontation she had with Lee in her "house" about her future, what she wants out of life, but I'm too hungover to really explore that right now.

You know, she didn't really say what she wanted, did she? Just that flying was going to suck -- I imagine she was looking for another challenge.

yeah, when I heard that, I thought "I guess Apollo isn't the only one who needs a war".

I wonder if the sentiments behind her "Flying will be boring now" were along the lines of her losing her Starbuckness (but she kinda lost that in Scar, didn't she?)??? Without the challenge of actual fighting, it's like taking a deskjob? So she'd prefer to become a . . . housewife? Rather than sully what's left of her Starbuck persona, she hangs it up?

I guess that it would at least be new.

What I don't understand is why they couldn't say, have a plan so that people who are in Service can spend some time on the planet with their families -- working on security THERE while others are on Galactica and Pegasus. I mean, surely in the Colonies folks in the service have lives planetside too. (Otherwise, would Tigh have been married? And clearly, Bill Adama had a family.)

that would make too much sense!

Or maybe there just weren't enough service members? Nah, they could have given shore-leave for one battlestar, leave the other fully manned, and then switch.

But maybe that's what Adama and Roslin were talking about?