that would make too much sense!

Or maybe there just weren't enough service members? Nah, they could have given shore-leave for one battlestar, leave the other fully manned, and then switch.

But maybe that's what Adama and Roslin were talking about?

Billy was shot in season 2. (I edited because I couldn't decide if Cindy really wanted to know.)

Thanks, sumi. I really did want to know, because we are watching the DVDs, but I fall asleep half of the time. It's not the kind of show I can watch when the kids are up. It's too violent, and the sex scenes are too graphic. Scott's really cool about re-watching, but I fall asleep a lot, and at some point, I just say, "No, go onto the next one."

Well, if I am understanding things correctly that night was the only time that she and Lee had sex. And it makes NO SENSE to me that she would either turn around and marry Anders at that point or do the other thing and give up Anders for Lee.

Why would it make no sense for her to give up Anders for Lee?

Okay, otherwise, I guess I'm not so lost, it's just (thus far, at least) dumbish, or at least it's still unclear. Now it's next week's episode that's being written by Jane Espenson, right? Because I was thinking it was this week's and I was so disappointed, because it was rather dialogue-lite, and dialogue is Jane's stock-in-trade.

Maybe Zak ties into why Kara doesn't let herself have Lee (for long)? She has residual guilt. Or maybe she's afraid she loves Lee more? Or I don't know.

Yeah, I was having a hard time following Kara's thinking last night. She's always been kind of fucked up, but the new fucked-up-ness--this ball of rage she's carrying around--is all tied into being held captive by Leoben. So the shit she pulled on Lee, basically intentionally breaking his heart that way, well, that happened before the Cylons came back. And sure, she's a mess, but I hadn't gathered she was quite that screwed up, to hurt her oldest friend that badly.

I dunno. I like Kara, and I feel kind of bad for Lee--which is good, because I wasn't for a while--but I don't follow the emotional logic here.

Also, I have some more respect for Lee now, given that he's made a real effort, I think, in his marriage with Dee. Or he was, anyway, before Kara came back. The rest of the season, however, is going to be very messy.

And I know that Katee Sackhoff isn't as cut as she should be, to do what she does, but man, I wouldn't mind looking like that. t does some more situps

The last time Kara got involved with an Adama boy, she ended up getting him killed. So I can see why she'd be reluctant to start a relationship with Lee. I think marrying Anders was her way of saying to Lee "The idea of getting involved with you scares the living shit out of me, so I'm making myself REALLY REALLY UNAVAILABLE."

Also, I have some more respect for Lee now, given that he's made a real effort, I think, in his marriage with Dee. Or he was, anyway, before Kara came back. The rest of the season, however, is going to be very messy.

And I know that Katee Sackhoff isn't as cut as she should be, to do what she does, but man, I wouldn't mind looking like that.

And again, oh yeah.

The last time Kara got involved with an Adama boy, she ended up getting him killed. So I can see why she'd be reluctant to start a relationship with Lee. I think marrying Anders was her way of saying to Lee "The idea of getting involved with you scares the living shit out of me, so I'm making myself REALLY REALLY UNAVAILABLE."

That makes sense. But then her hostility towards him gets me all dizzy, again. I guess it's the old I-hate-you-because-I-love-you. And I hate him (Anders) because he loves me, and he's not you.

I have to admit that when I saw the history of Lee & Kara montage I thought that this was going to be the end of things rather than the beginning. (Changed my mind at the actual end.)

wait. didn't Kara and Lee have sex last season after a night of drinking together? and then she was all, "there's nothing here! get over yourself! OMG!" or am i remembering wrong? (entirely possible because i tend to multitask while watching.)

also? i miss Billy.

I think she blew him off before they got to the actual sex, IIRC.

Yeah, they got drunk and made out, but there was no sex that time.

I think for me, Kara's confusing because I haven't seen fear on her face. Nor bravado masking fear, or other emotional disguises. The read of fear of loving another Adama makes sense, but feels very divorced from her expressions.

I don't feel sorry for Dee because just last season I was rolling my eyes at her about hopping from Billy to Lee in such a cavalier fashion