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Kaylee ,'Shindig'


The Great Write Way  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


erikaj - Nov 18, 2002 10:26:40 am PST #343 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Hey, everyone. Just posting to share what my writing instructor called a "Kinko's moment". That is to say, that the only time you should feel completely satisfied with your work is dragging it home from the copy place. I feel like I rock right now. Of course, given my track record, that should last...a minute and a half. Thanks to everyone who gave advice. Taking a moment...and we're done.


Hil R. - Nov 18, 2002 10:30:30 am PST #344 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

According to Little and Brown, if a name is a plural of a word (they use the example of Rivers), then it just gets the apostrophe, no additional s.


§ ita § - Nov 18, 2002 4:56:21 pm PST #345 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

When I last asked the Buffistas, I was told that Jesus and Moses were special exceptions and that 's was mandatory everywhere else.

I often ignore that advice.


John H - Nov 18, 2002 5:03:37 pm PST #346 of 10001

Just catching up on Susan's piece, the one thing that stuck in my mind, since I read it last night, is that you said the heroine was "racist".

Maybe it's just me, but that just sounds awful to me. You went on and softened it afterward, but hey, if she's racist, she's pretty much a bad person and I don't care if she gets hit by a truck, let alone finds True Love. I'd have been much happier reading something like "she's been brought up in a racist family" or "she has the racist attitudes typical of her upbringing" or something.


§ ita § - Nov 18, 2002 5:10:20 pm PST #347 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'd have been much happier reading something like "she's been brought up in a racist family" or "she has the racist attitudes typical of her upbringing" or something.

Wouldn't she still be racist?


Susan W. - Nov 18, 2002 5:12:18 pm PST #348 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I'd have been much happier reading something like "she's been brought up in a racist family" or "she has the racist attitudes typical of her upbringing" or something.

That's what I was trying to get at by saying it's clear she's acting out of ignorance instead of malice, but I could certainly change it.


John H - Nov 18, 2002 5:18:12 pm PST #349 of 10001

Wouldn't she still be racist?

Well yeah, but there's something about saying a person is something that makes it sound final, and much more damning, than if you say that they have certain attitudes, which to my mind links it in a certain time in their life.

Do her attitudes change, Susan, as the book goes on? I'm assuming this isn't one of those aryan-fascist-KKK-sponsored-white-supremacist romance novels that are so common in bookstores today...


Susan W. - Nov 18, 2002 5:50:45 pm PST #350 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Oh yes, her attitudes definitely change--not in one big epiphany, but you see her gradually become more open-minded throughout.


John H - Nov 18, 2002 5:52:53 pm PST #351 of 10001

In that case I think I would have written "At the start of the book..." followed by whatever you have to say about her attitudes.


Susan W. - Nov 19, 2002 11:21:02 pm PST #352 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

In writing class tonight, I got applause. And then one of my classmates said it was a very polished scene, so he wasn't surprised it was from earlier in the story than the previous things I'd had workshopped. I said, "I've been writing the book out of order. I actually wrote this scene last night." They then clapped again.

I'm floating about six feet above the ground right now.