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A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Susan W. - Nov 18, 2002 5:12:18 pm PST #348 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I'd have been much happier reading something like "she's been brought up in a racist family" or "she has the racist attitudes typical of her upbringing" or something.

That's what I was trying to get at by saying it's clear she's acting out of ignorance instead of malice, but I could certainly change it.


John H - Nov 18, 2002 5:18:12 pm PST #349 of 10001

Wouldn't she still be racist?

Well yeah, but there's something about saying a person is something that makes it sound final, and much more damning, than if you say that they have certain attitudes, which to my mind links it in a certain time in their life.

Do her attitudes change, Susan, as the book goes on? I'm assuming this isn't one of those aryan-fascist-KKK-sponsored-white-supremacist romance novels that are so common in bookstores today...


Susan W. - Nov 18, 2002 5:50:45 pm PST #350 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Oh yes, her attitudes definitely change--not in one big epiphany, but you see her gradually become more open-minded throughout.


John H - Nov 18, 2002 5:52:53 pm PST #351 of 10001

In that case I think I would have written "At the start of the book..." followed by whatever you have to say about her attitudes.


Susan W. - Nov 19, 2002 11:21:02 pm PST #352 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

In writing class tonight, I got applause. And then one of my classmates said it was a very polished scene, so he wasn't surprised it was from earlier in the story than the previous things I'd had workshopped. I said, "I've been writing the book out of order. I actually wrote this scene last night." They then clapped again.

I'm floating about six feet above the ground right now.


Rebecca Lizard - Nov 19, 2002 11:33:52 pm PST #353 of 10001
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

Cool. Go, Susan.


Holli - Nov 20, 2002 9:41:40 am PST #354 of 10001
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

Something I've been working on. Needs polish

Borrowed

I heard you once
I heard you say
(heard someone say,
at least):

This seems like what it needs to be.
There you are. Where did you go?
I will! Let's go tomorrow.
(I'm so happy) What good news!
Did you? I did! Oh, good for you!

This isn't what it should have been.
Where are you going? I can't find you.
Will we finish by tomorrow?
(I'm so sorry) Is there news?
Did you? I did. Oh, that's awful.

This isn't what it used to be.
I think I lost you. How'd I lose you?
I'll be gone, this time tomorrow.
(I'm so tired) That's not news.
Why did you? I just... did.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Nov 20, 2002 9:54:34 am PST #355 of 10001
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

I like it, Holli. I especially like the rhythum of the last stanza, "I think I lost you. How'd I lose you?/ I'll be gone, this time tomorrow."

The last line is a bit, um, clunky- 'I just... did' doesn't feel like it works. Perhaps something which worked with the metre rather than against it would be better?

The pattern of using brackets is clever, too- and it works. The first stanza doesn't go with the rest quite as well, although that doesn't feel like it stops it working.


Holli - Nov 20, 2002 1:02:04 pm PST #356 of 10001
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

Would it work better if I changed the last line to "How could you? I don't know."? That sounds better in my head.


erikaj - Nov 20, 2002 2:12:07 pm PST #357 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

I think 'Yes" Holli.