Mal: Take your people and go. Captain: You would have done the same. Mal: We can already see I haven't.

'Out Of Gas'


Natter 45: Smooth as Billy Dee Williams.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sophia Brooks - Jul 18, 2006 8:49:16 am PDT #7250 of 10002
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I don't think Sophia's old boss was bored. Sounds like she was crazy.

She was, a little, but one of my better bosses.


ChiKat - Jul 18, 2006 8:50:02 am PDT #7251 of 10002
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

Unrelatedly, one of the funniest videos I've ever seen.

Dear god. I hurt myself.


JenP - Jul 18, 2006 8:50:54 am PDT #7252 of 10002

Lord, that was some good funny, that was.


Steph L. - Jul 18, 2006 9:05:11 am PDT #7253 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

So, on the video of nasty-ass Bush groping the German chancellor, I have a question. I showed it to my co-workers, and as I was doing my flail-y chair dance of "Ick nasty nasty ick ick ick," Chatty!co-worker said that Bush's groping wasn't a sexual thing.

I disagreed, and said that adult men who have grown up and live in Western society are damn well aware of the connotations of touching a woman like that.

He told me that was a broad, sweeping generalization, and that it was a sexist (actually, he used the term "misandrist") statement.

Question(s): (1) Do you think that Bush's grope-y gropiness was sexual in any way? (2) Do you think that, in general, adult men in Western society are aware of the connotations of touching women? (3) How was my statement sexist?


tommyrot - Jul 18, 2006 9:09:14 am PDT #7254 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

actually, he used the term "misandrist"

Whack him with a stick. (Tell him a man told you to.)

(1) Do you think that Bush's grope-y gropiness was sexual in any way?

I haven't seen the video (just a still) but people have said it was one of those deals where it's sexual but the guy pretends it's not, in order to have plausible deniability.

eta: or did I read that here? I don't remember....


Trudy Booth - Jul 18, 2006 9:09:48 am PDT #7255 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

(4) Does Bush commonly feel-up male heads of state?


victor infante - Jul 18, 2006 9:11:03 am PDT #7256 of 10002
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

(4) Does Bush commonly feel-up male heads of state?

You've seen the picks of him and the Saudi king (or whomever it was) right?


Katie M - Jul 18, 2006 9:13:15 am PDT #7257 of 10002
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

I hadn't heard about it yet, but looking at the pictures here OH MY GOD STOP TOUCHING HER. WTF? Why do people think this is acceptable behavior in a professional context? She's the CHANCELLOR OF GERMANY STOP GRABBING HER! (Mind you, he should grab Josephine Random on the street, either.)

I can't tell if it's sexual from the pictures, but it's certainly gender-based; he wouldn't do that to a man, but he thinks he has the right to do it to a woman.


Gudanov - Jul 18, 2006 9:13:49 am PDT #7258 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping

You've seen the picks of him and the Saudi king (or whomever it was) right?

To be fair, there was oil involved and he is the leader of a nation of addicts.


Fred Pete - Jul 18, 2006 9:13:50 am PDT #7259 of 10002
Ann, that's a ferret.

(2) Handshake OK. Hug OK if friend, or woman initiates. Shoulder or foot rub OK if close friend, or woman clearly needs -- in which case, offer before commencing. Anything else beyond what is unavoidable in a crowded situation is to be avoided because it can be seen as sexual, even if it wasn't intended that way.

(1) I haven't seen the video. So I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he may not have intended anything sexual. But see above -- regardless of what he intended, it was a stupid thing to do because it could be reasonably seen as sexual.

(3) Beats me. The only thing I can think of is that co-worker thought your statement implied that it would have been ok if some other gender combo had been involved.