(4) Does Bush commonly feel-up male heads of state?
Buffy: How was school today? Dawn: The usual. A big square building filled with boredom and despair.
Buffy: Just how I remember it.
'The Killer In Me'
Natter 45: Smooth as Billy Dee Williams.
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Trudy Booth - Jul 18, 2006 9:09:48 am PDT #7255 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
victor infante - Jul 18, 2006 9:11:03 am PDT #7256 of 10002
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
(4) Does Bush commonly feel-up male heads of state?
You've seen the picks of him and the Saudi king (or whomever it was) right?
Katie M - Jul 18, 2006 9:13:15 am PDT #7257 of 10002
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
I hadn't heard about it yet, but looking at the pictures here OH MY GOD STOP TOUCHING HER. WTF? Why do people think this is acceptable behavior in a professional context? She's the CHANCELLOR OF GERMANY STOP GRABBING HER! (Mind you, he should grab Josephine Random on the street, either.)
I can't tell if it's sexual from the pictures, but it's certainly gender-based; he wouldn't do that to a man, but he thinks he has the right to do it to a woman.
Gudanov - Jul 18, 2006 9:13:49 am PDT #7258 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping
You've seen the picks of him and the Saudi king (or whomever it was) right?
To be fair, there was oil involved and he is the leader of a nation of addicts.
Fred Pete - Jul 18, 2006 9:13:50 am PDT #7259 of 10002
Ann, that's a ferret.
(2) Handshake OK. Hug OK if friend, or woman initiates. Shoulder or foot rub OK if close friend, or woman clearly needs -- in which case, offer before commencing. Anything else beyond what is unavoidable in a crowded situation is to be avoided because it can be seen as sexual, even if it wasn't intended that way.
(1) I haven't seen the video. So I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he may not have intended anything sexual. But see above -- regardless of what he intended, it was a stupid thing to do because it could be reasonably seen as sexual.
(3) Beats me. The only thing I can think of is that co-worker thought your statement implied that it would have been ok if some other gender combo had been involved.
Steph L. - Jul 18, 2006 9:13:55 am PDT #7260 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism
(4) Does Bush commonly feel-up male heads of state?
You've seen the picks of him and the Saudi king (or whomever it was) right?
I used that argument with Chatty!co-worker -- "Does Bush grope male heads of state?" -- and his reply was "We don't know that he *doesn't.*" And he was serious. I said, "Well, there's never been any news coverage of him groping male heads of state," and Chatty said "That still doesn't mean that Bush doesn't do it."
He's the ultimate relativist, and it drives me utterly utterly batshit.
Tom Scola - Jul 18, 2006 9:14:02 am PDT #7261 of 10002
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
Sexual or not, still really inappropriate.
Frankenbuddha - Jul 18, 2006 9:14:34 am PDT #7262 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
(4) Does Bush commonly feel-up male heads of state?
Aside from holding hands or receiving belly kisses?
§ ita § - Jul 18, 2006 9:15:16 am PDT #7263 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
It's condescending and overly familiar, from what I can tell. And, yeah, unlikely to do that to a guy.
It seems I left my favourite swimsuit in Jamaica.
And that my Powerbook power supply is dead.
brenda m - Jul 18, 2006 9:17:30 am PDT #7264 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Question(s): (1) Do you think that Bush's grope-y gropiness was sexual in any way? (2) Do you think that, in general, adult men in Western society are aware of the connotations of touching women? (3) How was my statement sexist?
I'm not sure I'd call it sexual, exactly (though that could be because my mind runs screaming away from the concept, with this man involved), thought it could be there, for sure.
Definitely a dominance behavior*, though, in a very gendered way.
And I think I just threw up a little in my mouth.
*spent way too much time talking about dog training recently