Do you see any goats around? No, because I sacrificed them.

Willow ,'Showtime'


Natter 45: Smooth as Billy Dee Williams.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.

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Kristen - Jun 01, 2006 11:26:01 am PDT #1 of 10002

I know that at least one person here was sad that they missed out on the Who's Your SpyDaddy? t-shirt so I thought I'd mention that TWOP is offering a short-sleeved version of it this month.

Also, they have a new Alias-related shirt too. hee.

ETA: Okay, I really wasn't expecting to be the first post in here.


Atropa - Jun 01, 2006 11:26:23 am PDT #2 of 10002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

A new thread?! Good heavens.


libkitty - Jun 01, 2006 11:26:46 am PDT #3 of 10002
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I like my haiku.
Haiku is exciting, fun.
But can I spell? Ha!

eta: Apparently I can't format either. Gah! But I can get in under 5! Whoot!


Frankenbuddha - Jun 01, 2006 11:27:42 am PDT #4 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Top 5?

eta Whooooot!


esse - Jun 01, 2006 11:27:59 am PDT #5 of 10002
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

top ten!

eta: score! top five.


Trudy Booth - Jun 01, 2006 11:29:06 am PDT #6 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

While askye is, indeed, awesome, I have to hold on to a vision of the world where people don't get fired solely for their beliefs, even if they are wrong like a wrong thing. signed, loves being a tenured academic type

She can believe whatever she wants. She can even say to her pals whatever she wants. When she teaches fictions as facts (and in this case dangerous ones) she's incompetent and its time to fire her ass if she won't stop doing so.


Steph L. - Jun 01, 2006 11:29:11 am PDT #7 of 10002
It's actually been a really hard year, when you stop and do the math. Eliot would cry, too, if it didn't take him seventy minutes of therapy, two cocktails, and a Sondheim medley before he can experience a human emotion through the haze of his PTSD.

To go back to askye's teacher for a minute....

If she only expressed her beliefs, then I'm still in the free speech zone of things, and you fight what you believe are wrong ideas with the expression of your right ideas.

Are middle-schoolers considered capable of the same type of reasoning that adults are?

That's a serious question.

I would never expect a 10- to 13-year-old to have reasoned out her beliefs on human rights to the same degree that an adult has. If, in fact, the child -- and that's what they are: children -- has reasoned out her beliefs on human rights AT ALL. Some 10-year-olds are still fucking up math; I can't imagine how they could rationally argue for the rights of women to walk down a street unassaulted.


askye - Jun 01, 2006 11:30:20 am PDT #8 of 10002
Thrive to spite them

I tried to post this but the thread rolled over....

The teacher, L, said these things in class as part of our health lesson (actually it was Child Development). We were watching Nova's Miracle of Life and there's a part where it talks about arousal.

At this point she stops the tape and tells the class that when men get aroused they have to have sex to "relieve" themselves. And that anything can arose a male no matter how little, even if a woman isn't aware of this. Because of this arousal men rape women. We were all shocked and asked questions.

"If a woman walks down the street in a parka and is grabbed and raped is it her fault?" Yes. "If a woman isn't doing anything or is on a date and a guy rapes her..." Yes. Because it can be the way she smells or looks or anything, etc. "What about a child, if a child is raped is it the child's fault." And while she didn't come out and say Yes, she heavily implied that yes it is the child's fault. It's not something concious that a child or a woman does, but it's still their fault.

The next day I went to the principal's office to talk to her about that.


beth b - Jun 01, 2006 11:32:48 am PDT #9 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

Thanks for the clarification Cindy. I am reading thru ick which makes me a bit thick

but this

The Anti-Dominionists are fast approaching Tinfoil hat time

confused me. As a nonreligious person I find anybody's idea that they have to fix things so everyone believes what they believe, terrifying.


Fred Pete - Jun 01, 2006 11:33:23 am PDT #10 of 10002
Ann, that's a ferret.

First Ten?

(ETA: YES! Just in time to leave for the evening....)


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