That's one spunky little girl you've raised. I'm gonna eat her.

The Mayor ,'End of Days'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Polter-Cow - Aug 14, 2006 1:28:28 pm PDT #720 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

WHY DOESN'T SF SEEM TO LAST ON TV?

Oh, oh, I know this one!

Earthquakes?

I watched some videos of panels from Comic Con (I think; P-C is that the one you just went to, at which Rob Thomas and the VM cast appeared?).

Yeah, that was Comic-Con. And, yeah, the panel wasn't all that great beyond the awesome guy with Kristen's box. And, of course, that kickass promo. But few things compare to Austin.


Kristen - Aug 14, 2006 1:31:41 pm PDT #721 of 10001

If I hadn't just bought a vacuum, I might actually have gone. Darn.

ETA: Oh and I have company that weekend too. Darn again.

And, yeah, the panel wasn't all that great beyond the awesome guy with Kristen's box.

Um. Can we have some clarification on this?


Polter-Cow - Aug 14, 2006 1:33:43 pm PDT #722 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Clarification.

There was a guy who was living in one of Kristen's old apartments, and he had happened to receive a package addressed to her the night before, so he brought it for her. He said it looked like a foot massager. It turned out to be from her agent, who didn't seem to know she hadn't lived there in two years.


Allyson - Aug 14, 2006 1:34:41 pm PDT #723 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Just to be clear, I have a $30 limit on going to any Buffista talks, panel discussions, or Q&As. My cheerleading/support dollars are restricted by my suckass job.

Strega! Do tell. Why DO scifi shows fail so miserably? And how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?


Kevin - Aug 14, 2006 1:49:01 pm PDT #724 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Wed 8/23 4:00 PM Title: WHY DOESN'T SF SEEM TO LAST ON TV?

Sat 8/26 2:30 PM Title: RUNNING TV SHOWS

Sat 8/26 5:30 PM Title: CRAFTING THE WHEDON-VERSE

Shouldn't these panels be run the other way around?


Strega - Aug 14, 2006 1:59:55 pm PDT #725 of 10001

1. For the same reason most non-SF doesn't last. Sometimes it's crappy, sometimes it's just bad luck.

2. Much of it is targeted to SF fans. Which is why you get people who say, "Oh, I don't like SF shows," when they mean... well, often they mean, "I don't like Star Trek/Doctor Who." The stuff SF fans geek out over (and I'm one, so I can say that) is not always enthralling to non-fans. And the stuff fans forgive isn't always so forgivable to non-fans.

3. The stuff that does survive often isn't recognized as SF because of #2. It's not as easy to define SF as it is, "police procedural" or "sitcom," or "family drama." This is an extreme example, but there are SF fans who don't think Battlestar Galactica is SF. Because they're batshit crazy.


§ ita § - Aug 14, 2006 2:07:01 pm PDT #726 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My sister hates SF, and loves BSG. Cracks me up.


Kevin - Aug 14, 2006 2:08:55 pm PDT #727 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

4. The obvious one - the marketing. It's little harder to market something which has a narrower target audience than, say, a comedy.


Allyson - Aug 14, 2006 2:16:14 pm PDT #728 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Because they're batshit crazy.

Ohh. Tag?


libkitty - Aug 14, 2006 2:19:27 pm PDT #729 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

My cheerleading/support dollars are restricted by my suckass job.

I feel your pain. I still haven't bought the Tim DVD because I'm so annoyed that the Joss one is cheaper. I will, but I have to get over my annoyance. Also, I have to get over my not having money, which is happening much slower than I would like. I love my job, but certainly didn't become a librarian for the money.

WHY DOESN'T SF SEEM TO LAST ON TV?

Personally, I think it's a plot. By the Cylons. Or maybe the vamps. Or little green men from the future.