Wed 8/23 4:00 PM Title: WHY DOESN'T SF SEEM TO LAST ON TV?
Sat 8/26 2:30 PM Title: RUNNING TV SHOWS
Sat 8/26 5:30 PM Title: CRAFTING THE WHEDON-VERSE
Shouldn't these panels be run the other way around?
Can't you ever get your mind out of the hellmouth?
Buffy ,'Touched'
The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
Kevin - Aug 14, 2006 1:49:01 pm PDT #724 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
Strega - Aug 14, 2006 1:59:55 pm PDT #725 of 10001
1. For the same reason most non-SF doesn't last. Sometimes it's crappy, sometimes it's just bad luck.
2. Much of it is targeted to SF fans. Which is why you get people who say, "Oh, I don't like SF shows," when they mean... well, often they mean, "I don't like Star Trek/Doctor Who." The stuff SF fans geek out over (and I'm one, so I can say that) is not always enthralling to non-fans. And the stuff fans forgive isn't always so forgivable to non-fans.
3. The stuff that does survive often isn't recognized as SF because of #2. It's not as easy to define SF as it is, "police procedural" or "sitcom," or "family drama." This is an extreme example, but there are SF fans who don't think Battlestar Galactica is SF. Because they're batshit crazy.
§ ita § - Aug 14, 2006 2:07:01 pm PDT #726 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
My sister hates SF, and loves BSG. Cracks me up.
Kevin - Aug 14, 2006 2:08:55 pm PDT #727 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
4. The obvious one - the marketing. It's little harder to market something which has a narrower target audience than, say, a comedy.
Allyson - Aug 14, 2006 2:16:14 pm PDT #728 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Because they're batshit crazy.
Ohh. Tag?
libkitty - Aug 14, 2006 2:19:27 pm PDT #729 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs
My cheerleading/support dollars are restricted by my suckass job.
I feel your pain. I still haven't bought the Tim DVD because I'm so annoyed that the Joss one is cheaper. I will, but I have to get over my annoyance. Also, I have to get over my not having money, which is happening much slower than I would like. I love my job, but certainly didn't become a librarian for the money.
WHY DOESN'T SF SEEM TO LAST ON TV?
Personally, I think it's a plot. By the Cylons. Or maybe the vamps. Or little green men from the future.
Tim Minear - Aug 14, 2006 2:48:10 pm PDT #730 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"
If it's any help, I'm doing again. Mostly so I have a not-fat one. I went from a 40 pant to a 33 since then. I might do the whole thing shirtless. I'd wait.
Kristen - Aug 14, 2006 2:50:34 pm PDT #731 of 10001
Makes note to hire own photographer for the event...
Allyson - Aug 14, 2006 2:52:31 pm PDT #732 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
I totally almost made a pass at him last week. He's wicked hot.
I was gonna write a review of his pants for TimMinear.net.
Gus - Aug 14, 2006 2:58:11 pm PDT #733 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.
Isn't Stargate one of the longest-running shows on the tube? Not personally a fan, but this fact seems to indicate that SF elements are not THE limiting factor for series duration.