There's something about a food that moves all by itself that gives me the heebie-jeebies.

Joyce ,'Never Leave Me'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Strega - Aug 14, 2006 1:27:51 pm PDT #718 of 10001

WHY DOESN'T SF SEEM TO LAST ON TV?

Oh, oh, I know this one!


Topic!Cindy - Aug 14, 2006 1:28:02 pm PDT #719 of 10001
What is even happening?

I'd go, if America weren't between me and Anaheim.

Tim, have you done many cons?

I watched some videos of panels from Comic Con (I think; P-C is that the one you just went to, at which Rob Thomas and the VM cast appeared?). I expected more, somehow. Maybe this particular audience just didn't have many questions, I don't know. I always wonder if the writers and actors feel on the spot at these things, though.


Polter-Cow - Aug 14, 2006 1:28:28 pm PDT #720 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

WHY DOESN'T SF SEEM TO LAST ON TV?

Oh, oh, I know this one!

Earthquakes?

I watched some videos of panels from Comic Con (I think; P-C is that the one you just went to, at which Rob Thomas and the VM cast appeared?).

Yeah, that was Comic-Con. And, yeah, the panel wasn't all that great beyond the awesome guy with Kristen's box. And, of course, that kickass promo. But few things compare to Austin.


Kristen - Aug 14, 2006 1:31:41 pm PDT #721 of 10001

If I hadn't just bought a vacuum, I might actually have gone. Darn.

ETA: Oh and I have company that weekend too. Darn again.

And, yeah, the panel wasn't all that great beyond the awesome guy with Kristen's box.

Um. Can we have some clarification on this?


Polter-Cow - Aug 14, 2006 1:33:43 pm PDT #722 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Clarification.

There was a guy who was living in one of Kristen's old apartments, and he had happened to receive a package addressed to her the night before, so he brought it for her. He said it looked like a foot massager. It turned out to be from her agent, who didn't seem to know she hadn't lived there in two years.


Allyson - Aug 14, 2006 1:34:41 pm PDT #723 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Just to be clear, I have a $30 limit on going to any Buffista talks, panel discussions, or Q&As. My cheerleading/support dollars are restricted by my suckass job.

Strega! Do tell. Why DO scifi shows fail so miserably? And how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?


Kevin - Aug 14, 2006 1:49:01 pm PDT #724 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Wed 8/23 4:00 PM Title: WHY DOESN'T SF SEEM TO LAST ON TV?

Sat 8/26 2:30 PM Title: RUNNING TV SHOWS

Sat 8/26 5:30 PM Title: CRAFTING THE WHEDON-VERSE

Shouldn't these panels be run the other way around?


Strega - Aug 14, 2006 1:59:55 pm PDT #725 of 10001

1. For the same reason most non-SF doesn't last. Sometimes it's crappy, sometimes it's just bad luck.

2. Much of it is targeted to SF fans. Which is why you get people who say, "Oh, I don't like SF shows," when they mean... well, often they mean, "I don't like Star Trek/Doctor Who." The stuff SF fans geek out over (and I'm one, so I can say that) is not always enthralling to non-fans. And the stuff fans forgive isn't always so forgivable to non-fans.

3. The stuff that does survive often isn't recognized as SF because of #2. It's not as easy to define SF as it is, "police procedural" or "sitcom," or "family drama." This is an extreme example, but there are SF fans who don't think Battlestar Galactica is SF. Because they're batshit crazy.


§ ita § - Aug 14, 2006 2:07:01 pm PDT #726 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My sister hates SF, and loves BSG. Cracks me up.


Kevin - Aug 14, 2006 2:08:55 pm PDT #727 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

4. The obvious one - the marketing. It's little harder to market something which has a narrower target audience than, say, a comedy.