Mal ,'Ariel'
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
In the comic thread, they white font comments about the current issue until a week after the release of the subsequent issue.
Not so. From the Other Media thread description:
Please use spoiler font for new releases until after the weekend following release.
So Jackal's post is OK.
t on edit Oh wait... after the weekend. That means it's not OK until tomorrow. I'll fix it.
I thought that you whitefonted in the thread until the weekend after release but that you had to whitefont everywhere else like you do for tv shows. Not so?
That's my understanding also, as otherwise people who haven't yet got the comics will be spoiled.
Also, a month until Drive!
Sorry about the lack of white-font. Didn't know about comic spoiler rules.
I still think that Illyria happened because 1) Fred was never a clearly drawn character; 2) but they liked Acker, understandably; 3) plus she was the only woman in the cast; so 4) they needed to turn her into a different character.
Unfortunately, they turned her into a character who was more clearly defined, but had no motivating purpose. Sorta like Lorne.
You could argue that all the characters in Angel -- bar Angel himself -- had no motivating purpose.
I loved Amy Acker as both Fred and Illyria, but the characters never really stood out as main characters to drive an episode. Both of them were there to provide contrast for the main characters and show us Wes/Gunn/Angel's reponse to her to explicate their motivations, not hers. I would have liked to see her more in a role like Kate's in season 1 and 2, a character whose life intersects theirs at times, but not every episode. Once they rescued her from Pylea they should have sent her back to university and had the AI crew consulting with her on demon dimensions and the occult occasionally, but not every episode. There still could have been romance with Gunn/Wes, there could have been more rescuing of the damsel in distress, etc. It would have given her more agency to be independent of the crew, rather than someone who become subsumed by the larger group and ended up being rather forgettable.
I thought that you whitefonted in the thread until the weekend after release but that you had to whitefont everywhere else like you do for tv shows. Not so?
You're right, Sumi.
Note to self: Do not post before breakfast.
You could argue that all the characters in Angel -- bar Angel himself -- had no motivating purpose.You could, but I don't think it's true. Is it generally hard to answer "What does this character want?" for Cordelia, or Wesley, or Gunn, or Connor?
Cordy had a purpose at first, but towards the end I had no real idea what she wanted. Wes and Gunn both wanted Fred, except didn't, except did. Connor.. I'm not sure.
Of course, I've not seen the episodes in any kind of order for years, so it's quite possibly I'm just being dim.