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Spike's Bitches 30: Going on Thirteen  

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Jars - Jun 04, 2006 12:32:02 am PDT #7739 of 10002

Nah, whatever makes them happy. Or happier. And keeps you from complete mentalitude.

And hey, I left the country because I was sick of dealing with my family, so I think you're definitely doing better than me.


Volans - Jun 04, 2006 12:38:21 am PDT #7740 of 10002
move out and draw fire

My theory on this "success rate" is that the stigma for divorce is even higher in cultures with arranged marriages.

I think that's probably true. However, one point this book made is that people, if left to their own devices, tend to pick partners that match their expectations of what a love relationship is, and often those are fucked-up expectations. Like, "people I love always criticize me" or "people I love always hit me" or similar.

Not that I'm in favor of arranged marriages necessarily, but they do work, and they sometimes keep you from marrying someone just like your mother (or father).

So anyway, P-C, has your family suggested positive alternatives to go with their negative statements? You can't be on the Internet, and you can't socialize in person with girls...have they proposed options for what you *can* do?


Polter-Cow - Jun 04, 2006 1:01:56 am PDT #7741 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

You can't be on the Internet, and you can't socialize in person with girls...have they proposed options for what you *can* do?

I get the impression that all my time must be spent A) interacting with family in the vicinity, B) meeting and greeting extended family who happen to visit, and C) finding male Indian friends.

Oh, I'm also not supposed to read books all the time.

With that, I go to bed.


Fay - Jun 04, 2006 2:19:42 am PDT #7742 of 10002
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Oh, I'm also not supposed to read books all the time.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, the HELL with that. That sound you just heard? It was the camel's back breaking. I mean, yes, my mother had to physically remove my book from me to prevent me from reading through my cousin's wedding when I was 15, so I'm not exactly without a bias here, but...the HELL with that.

They have no clue how lucky they are. My God. What, they'd rather you were in a less intellectual, more testosterone-fuelled frame of mind?

What. Ever.

I am trying very hard not to call them CRAZYHEADS, but without much success. I hereby declare it mandatory that you move immediately if not sooner, because a household that thinks you should read less is a crazy household.

(You need to watch Goodness Gracious Me, though. I think you would enjoy it.)


Topic!Cindy - Jun 04, 2006 2:21:15 am PDT #7743 of 10002
What is even happening?

I recently read a book called "A General Theory of Love" (it's about neurophysiology) which in some part explains why arranged marriages work (because they do have a better success rate than love marriages)

Long ago, I read something (can't even remember what) saying they work better...in cultures that practice and support them. I think the discussion was along the lines of: It's good, or even better, if you're in a place where arranged marriage is the expectation, but it is a really difficult thing for people who have been raised in the West, and are assimilated into Western culture. I might have even read this in my Sociology of Marriage and Family course, in college.


Fay - Jun 04, 2006 2:45:10 am PDT #7744 of 10002
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Well, that seems logical enough.


brenda m - Jun 04, 2006 3:11:57 am PDT #7745 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Yeah, you're right. My mom does acknowledge the fact that I'm quiet...she just doesn't like it. It means I think I'm better than everyone.

If it helps, remind yourself that what it actually means is that it makes them feel inadequate - same with the books and computer, I'd guess. They don't understand it, so it makes them feel like you're choosing something else over them. People are scared of what they don't understand, and it makes them defensive, and it's much easier to just turn that around and make it about you. But it's really not.


Volans - Jun 04, 2006 3:22:01 am PDT #7746 of 10002
move out and draw fire

I used to get the stuff about reading too much too - but only from my mother. My dad encouraged the reading. My mother told me the reason I needed glasses was because I read so much, with the subtext that boys would never like me because I wore glasses and read books.

I can't even imagine what my mom's reaction would've been to my various non-white boyfriends. Actually, I strongly suspect I never would have dated had she stayed in my life.

So, yeah, parents freaky.

OTOH, Mallory just rotated his pacifier in his mouth, like an airplane propellor, using only his tongue. That's going to make him popular someday.


vw bug - Jun 04, 2006 3:36:43 am PDT #7747 of 10002
Mostly lurking...

Someone kick my ass into gear. Must get ready for the graduation party.


sj - Jun 04, 2006 5:01:43 am PDT #7748 of 10002
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Gently nudges vw to get moving.

P-C, I still have no advice for you, except that giving therapy another try is probably a good idea. One bad therapist shouldn't discourage you from that. Take care.