Wash: Were I unwed, I would take you in a manly fashion. Kaylee: 'Cause I'm pretty? Wash: 'Cause you're pretty.

'Heart Of Gold'


Spike's Bitches 30: Going on Thirteen  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


DavidS - May 12, 2006 8:22:03 pm PDT #4454 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Those of you with kids, what would you want if it were your kid in that situation?

Honestly, I'm more feeling the empathy with the teenage boy than the parents on this one. If I felt compelled to say anything, I'd pull him aside at the mailbox and just say, "Just tell me you're using birth control and I won't say anything to your mother."


Cass - May 12, 2006 8:27:18 pm PDT #4455 of 10002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Honestly, I'm more feeling the empathy with the teenage boy than the parents on this one. If I felt compelled to say anything, I'd pull him aside at the mailbox and just say, "Just tell me you're using birth control and I won't say anything to your mother."
I am aunt, not parent, but I am leaning toward Hec on this. Talks I have had with the niecelet and will have with the nephlet have skewed this way. There are the points that you need to cover and then there are the ways we would like the world to be...


beth b - May 12, 2006 9:31:31 pm PDT #4456 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

Not sure you can do anything that will really stop anything- but I would bring up the idea of birth control - just to giv ethe something to think about. and I might mention that driving with out headlight s is what made you notice them . and that you won't lie for them if it comes up ( but no, you aren't going out of your way to bring it up either) Now, if you were mom or dad, I would try talking about respecting rules if you want to keep seeing the girl. but it all depends o n the relationship you have with the boy...


Cass - May 12, 2006 10:01:33 pm PDT #4457 of 10002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Not sure you can do anything that will really stop anything- but I would bring up the idea of birth control - just to giv ethe something to think about. and I might mention that driving with out headlight s is what made you notice them . and that you won't lie for them if it comes up ( but no, you aren't going out of your way to bring it up either)
I wish *anything* would change what kids will do. But all you can do is bring up birth control, safe sex and accepting responsibility for your actions. And hope for smart kids.


Topic!Cindy - May 13, 2006 2:21:01 am PDT #4458 of 10002
What is even happening?

We drove directly to meet the in-laws to pick up the kids as soon as we got off our flight yesterday. Owen was in his grandfather's arms when I walked up to him. He looked at me suspiciously, frowned and then clung to Grandpa's neck. It took him a while to warm back up to me. Stake. Through. The. Heart.
Oh, Cashmere. I'm pretty sure in Two-Year-Old-ese, this is, "I love you so much that you must be punished for your own good, and this is the only means available to me." Poor Owen. Your story is putting me in mind of A.A. Milne's Disobedience, from When We Were Very Young.

James James
Morrison Morrison
Weatherby George Dupree
Took great
Care of his Mother,
Though he was only three.
James James
Said to his Mother,
"Mother," he said, said he;
"You must never go down to the end of the town, if you don't go down with me."
James James
Morrison's Mother
Put on a golden gown.
James James
Morrison's Mother
Drove to the end of the town.
James James
Morrison's Mother
Said to herself, said she:
"I can get right down to the end of the town and be back in time for tea."
King John
Put up a notice,
"LOST or STOLEN or STRAYED!
JAMES JAMES
MORRISON'S MOTHER
SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN MISLAID.
LAST SEEN
WANDERING VAGUELY:
QUITE OF HER OWN ACCORD,
SHE TRIED TO GET DOWN TO THE END OF THE TOWN—FORTY SHILLINGS REWARD!"
James James
Morrison Morrison
(Commonly known as Jim)
Told his
Other relations
Not to go blaming him.
James James
Said to his Mother,
"Mother," he said, said he:
"You must never go down to the end of the town without consulting me."
James James
Morrison's mother
Hasn't been heard of since.
King John said he was sorry,
So did the Queen and Prince.
King John
(Somebody told me)
Said to a man he knew:
If people go down to the end of the town, well, what can anyone do?"

(Now then, very softly)
J.J.
M.M.
W.G.Du P.
Took great
C/0 his M*****
Though he was only 3.
J.J. said to his M*****
"M*****," he said, said he:
"You-must-never-go-down-to-the-end-of-the-town-if-
you-don't-go-down-with-ME!"

It's a good thing Olivia didn't hold a grudge.
Hee.

...

d, are you friends with the mother, or just friendly neighbors, or plain old neighbors? Is the neighbor your landlord, or is she also renting?


Cashmere - May 13, 2006 2:45:39 am PDT #4459 of 10002
Now tagless for your comfort.

Oh, Cashmere. I'm pretty sure in Two-Year-Old-ese, this is, "I love you so much that you must be punished for your own good, and this is the only means available to me." Poor Owen. Your story is putting me in mind of A.A. Milne's Disobedience, from When We Were Very Young.

Yeah. I let him have his moment. Plus, he had just woken up from a nap and hadn't eaten. I think it's actually good for his grandfather to know that he felt so safe with them. I did my best not to show hurty feelings and got a bit of time with Olivia before Owen realized he was coming back home with us.

d, I think it would depend very much on the kind of relationship you have with the family and what kind of kid the teenager is. As a parent, I'd probably want to know the information but I'd also REALLY like to hear it from the kid, rather than from a neighbor. The discussions that need to come up (BC, respect issues, etc.) *should* take place between the parent and child so I'd probably nudge the kid in that direction, if it's possible.


Pix - May 13, 2006 3:28:01 am PDT #4460 of 10002
The status is NOT quo.

Anyone around? I could use a shoulder.


Amy - May 13, 2006 3:32:04 am PDT #4461 of 10002
Because books.

I'm here. Slightly hung over, but here. What's up, sweetie?


brenda m - May 13, 2006 3:33:24 am PDT #4462 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Hey hon, what's up?


Pix - May 13, 2006 3:34:03 am PDT #4463 of 10002
The status is NOT quo.

Hey sweeties. Another night of nightmares and anxiety dreams. This makes the fourth night in a row. It's 5:30 in the morning on a Saturday and I've only been asleep since 2, and yet I'm wide awake and shaky. Again.