Saffron: But we've been wed. Aren't we to become one flesh? Mal: Well, no, uh... We're still two fleshes here, and I think that your flesh ought to sleep somewhere else.

'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Natter .44 Magnum: Do You Feel Chatty, Punk?  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sarameg - May 31, 2006 5:06:22 pm PDT #9815 of 10002

Actually, knowing the observers, the bear was probably like " DONUTS! Wonder if they are from the Lodge or the General Store. Hope these pinkies aren't vegan..."


Kathy A - May 31, 2006 5:08:18 pm PDT #9816 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

OK, so I'm watching the Frontline thing on AIDS. And I just saw a President actually RESPOND to the charges of a heckler, taking responsibility, not making glib, looking tormented and saddened to admit fault. And admitting failure. Not a President I was particularly pleased with a lot of the time, but THAT was accountability. God, I miss that.

I saw part of the first half of that last night, and my reaction was the same as yours. As much as I dislike Reagan's politics and especially his delayed reaction to the AIDS epidemic, the fact that he didn't have the hecklers to his (only) AIDS speech escorted immeditately out of the room just shows how far the Presidency has fallen in the past 5 1/2 years.


sarameg - May 31, 2006 5:11:33 pm PDT #9817 of 10002

Kathy, the funny part is I missed that part. My reaction was to Clinton tonight.


msbelle - May 31, 2006 5:12:34 pm PDT #9818 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

oh a trip out there to see the 'scopes I think will have to happen. What age would that make sense at?


sarameg - May 31, 2006 5:28:02 pm PDT #9819 of 10002

I'd say whenever the kid has interest. In general experience (ie, my dad's tour requests) there is a peak around 7-10 and another in the mid teens, if they are sciencey. I think the 7-10 is sort of the most-fun, rather than career, interest stage. It's then still all about cool tools and machinery, and less about peers and life crap. This may be another bias talking as I pretty much find that age most endearing after the whole baby-kitten-cuddle phase.


sarameg - May 31, 2006 5:38:35 pm PDT #9820 of 10002

OK, this Frontline program? Is seriously making want to punch people. I did hit the tv once. Threw a brush at it another. Saving lives or your fucking paper thin imitation facimile of christian or whatever morals, you fucking fuckhead?!

Really. Really. Hate. People.

I am reluctant to wish ill on people, even when I think them wrong. But I'm going there.

OTOH, there are some incredible people who pushed back. Them, I'll kiss.


msbelle - May 31, 2006 5:40:35 pm PDT #9821 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

you? kiss? other people?


msbelle - May 31, 2006 5:40:57 pm PDT #9822 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

7-10, check.


sarameg - May 31, 2006 5:50:27 pm PDT #9823 of 10002

Hah. Metaphorically. Though some of these peoples chutzpah would at least have me hugging.

Now I'm currently loving the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and I hate MicroSoft products. But, goddamn, that money is doing good. I see it again and again. Not going to make me like Excel or Word's logic, but...

This is an excellent program. I highly recommend people get their hands on it. It will piss you off. It will also give you people to admire. It will give you uncomfortable bedfellows (Helms+ Bono, anyone?)

edit: and oh fuck, it ends on a little girl asking her doctor why she has the virus, the doctor checking with mom, and saying that when she's older, they'll explain. God.


Jesse - May 31, 2006 6:03:34 pm PDT #9824 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

sara, you'll be glad to know that Patty Stonesifer, who actually runs the foundation, is freaking awesome. I was at a small lunch with her last year.