You'll fight, and you'll shag, and you'll hate each other till it makes you quiver, but you'll never be friends.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Natter .44 Magnum: Do You Feel Chatty, Punk?  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Cass - May 29, 2006 5:12:19 pm PDT #9461 of 10002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

My experience as well, JZ. But from longer ago. My dad adopted my step-sis and step-brother yonks ago and both of their bio dads had to sign off on the process.


Lee - May 29, 2006 5:13:29 pm PDT #9462 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

What JZ said. Most if not all states will presume that the husband is the father and grant him parental rights. IIRC, taking away those parental rights can't be done without his permission or a court battle.


Cass - May 29, 2006 5:16:22 pm PDT #9463 of 10002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Oh! And what Perkins said. Cause my stepmom also had a quick marriage of convienence to somebody else *not* my step-sis's dad at the time of the birth and he had to sign off on it too.


§ ita § - May 29, 2006 5:21:50 pm PDT #9464 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Cool. Thanks. That clears up some of this Miami Vice episode.

TV and the Internet: Educational Together.


Jesse - May 29, 2006 5:25:16 pm PDT #9465 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm glad that other people had Actual Information, because I remembered after I posted that all of my legal "knowledge" comes from Law & Order.


JZ - May 29, 2006 5:25:25 pm PDT #9466 of 10002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Most if not all states will presume that the husband is the father and grant him parental rights.

Huh. 'Cause that wasn't my friend's experience at all -- his wife had never actually married her child's biodad and he'd been completely uninvolved and uninterested in the child at all, right up until the day my friend's wife's lawyer asked him to sign the papers. At which point he came roaring out with all kinds of threats and bluster about his manhood and his baby and some interloper stealing his flesh and blood, and despite never having met the kid or had any interaction with the mom since she told him she was pregnant, he nearly managed to derail the entire thing. Until one of his friends pulled him aside and explained that if he gave up his parental rights then that other guy would have to pay all the kid's expenses for, like, ever, and he'd be completely off the hook. Upon hearing which, he docilely signed and promptly vanished.

But until he signed, the CA courts didn't seem to care that he wasn't the husband and had never been the husband and had actively refused all involvement. He was biodad, and until he formally renounced, that's what counted.


libkitty - May 29, 2006 5:31:52 pm PDT #9467 of 10002
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

Mosquitos suck. Well, literally, but also figuratively. Apparently the worst spot is above the elbows. I guess my upper arms weren't moving enough when my lower arms were flailing around trying to keep the blood-sucking monsters away from my face and ears. And Caladryl doesn't seem to be working as well as it used to.

I know I shouldn't scratch. I know this. And yet....


Lee - May 29, 2006 5:35:54 pm PDT #9468 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

The two situations aren't contradictory, JZ. ita's original question was

If I divorce the father of my kid and remarry and want my new husband to adopt, does the kid's biological father have a say? And does his status change when the adoption goes through?

If a couple is married at the time the woman has a baby, the presumption is that the husband is also the father. That's not to say that the presumption can't be overridden, or that biodad has to be married to mom for him to have rights, just that if a woman is married when she has a kid, the person she is married to will probably have some rights.


Jesse - May 29, 2006 5:38:17 pm PDT #9469 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Ah, and I DO have Miami Vice taping from the pilot on! Sweet.


JZ - May 29, 2006 5:59:34 pm PDT #9470 of 10002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Ah, okay. I get it now. Damn nuances.