It's a better reason to have a baby than some I've seen.

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but having them to make me better at revolution would be wrong, right?

According to Kantian ethics it's wrong to use a person as the means to an end.

Nietzschean ethics, however...

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Plus -- and I've noticed this most from the Red side, but I won't argue whether my vision is accurate or skewed -- an unwillingness to see the other side as anything resembling human.

I see a bunch of it from the Blue side. But maybe because Blue is the bigger color here.

now to go read what is makeing people say ewww

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eww maybe i shouldn't have

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Unseemly interest by fathers in their daughters' "purity" has always struck me as having icky incestuous undertones. I mean, I get that most parents would prefer their kids to wait til they're married or at least mature and responsible enough to handle sex. But some of these guys seem very unhealthily obssessed with their protective duties, and I end up getting a vibe of "If I'm not allowed to, then no one is" from them.

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If a woman has junk in her trunk and muscular thighs, that'll change.

You mean like me?

Well I was thinking of me (although my thighs are less muscular than once upon a time, but never small...)

I don't think I've seen (or retained) enough of the right shots of pictures of you to be sure, but if I had to bet, I'd say you have muscular legs because of your athletic disciplines over the years. It seems to me you've talked about your family's general build, but I can't remember if you were talking about booty scarcity or abundance.

I just know looking at clothes on a mannequin is never going to help me know if they'll fall right on me.

Unseemly interest by fathers in their daughters' "purity" has always struck me as having icky incestuous undertones. I mean, I get that most parents would prefer their kids to wait til they're married or at least mature and responsible enough to handle sex. But some of these guys seem very unhealthily obssessed with their protective duties, and I end up getting a vibe of "If I'm not allowed to, then no one is" from them.

Yeah. I don't know about all that stuff. It seems to me in a family where the father is that involved as to go to something like that in the first place, he's probably already fulfilling his duties, and I would have found celebrating my purity embarrassing, particularly when I was pure.

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I had Casper drug-free. There were painful parts but only one brief screamy OWIE moment. For the rest I just made a lot of noise (which surprised me) but it really helped. Not screaming, rhythmic moaning.

Casper doesn't seem to have been traumatized by the noise. In fact, she was sort of astoundingly zen and wise-looking ( [link] ) for the first couple of hours. Then she fell asleep.

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Unseemly interest by fathers in their daughters' "purity" has always struck me as having icky incestuous undertones.

Oh, definitely. Purity Ball = years of therapy. Or, as someone said on another board, that's where strippers come from.

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It seems to me you've talked about your family's general build, but I can't remember if you were talking about booty scarcity or abundance.

It's not the fullest trunk, but it has its share of junk. There's an upper limit to the waist/hip ratio a skirt that short can cover politely. It would still be polite on me, but I'd have a limited range of motion.

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Well, back in the day (and in some places still) women were literally property and their value was hymen-based. Her virtue was her family's virtue -- it wasn't 'hers' to give away. It really WAS "it's mine and you can't have it unless I say so" on the part of Fathers.

When you leave out the property rights it just comes off as dirty.

Slavery or pervy really seem to be the only options when Daddy is overly interested in such things.

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