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'Shindig'


Natter 43: I Love My Dead Gay Whale Crosspost.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


flea - Mar 31, 2006 6:13:23 am PST #7554 of 10001
information libertarian

Sneak into their offices and wipe their computers while they are gone!! Oh, wait. That's if they were getting rid of you, not vice versa.


Jesse - Mar 31, 2006 6:18:51 am PST #7555 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh god, I've totally had that happen -- it's so traumatic waiting around for a boss to be available for quitting!


DavidS - Mar 31, 2006 6:20:25 am PST #7556 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I can't even believe Hec's employers can do that! I always thought you had to have written warnings and counselings and such before you were fired (unless your position was eliminated).

I'm guessing California, like New York, is an at-will employment state. As long as they aren't firing you for being black (female, etc. -- in a protected class), they don't have to give a reason at all.

Hec, you worked for HR, right? So even more shocking that your bosses can't handle a termination more gracefully.

As Jesse notes, it's an at-will state. But as Sophia and Theo note, they really handled it terribly and also (just from an HR perspective) left themselves open (just barely) to a wrongful termination suit.

I don't think I have a viable case, but by not documenting anything beforehand they left themselves vulnerable to an age-discrimination suit. My new (now ex) coworker is 23. If they hire another 23 y.o. woman for my position they're not going to look good. Particularly since when I and my original coworker were hired, there was much talk in the firm about the fact that we were men in our early 40s, and this was unusual and actually ruffling some feathers.

I know they were talking to one of the labor law Partners about the situation.

I don't want to paint a distorted picture of me as the perfect employee. I wasn't. I resented having my responsibilities with the recruiter scaled back to the level of typing and data input. My filing was way behind. But I did create a lot of systems to deal with the office's gaping holes. I built the MCLE tracking database from scratch and ran it for three cycles. Did quarterly vacation balance reports by downloading data from their crap-ass tracking system which didn't even do year-to-date accruals. I knew the payroll system, the applicant tracking system, the personnel action system way way better than anybody in my unit.

There were many things I did for them, and could do for them, but in the end they really wanted a glorified filing clerk.


Jesse - Mar 31, 2006 6:24:30 am PST #7557 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

40 is the line for age discrimination, right? Do you have any interest in using that to get more money out of them? That seems to me like the most egregious part.


Gudanov - Mar 31, 2006 6:31:13 am PST #7558 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Aside from just being wrong, that seems so un-San Franciscan. You are suppose to have diverse offices there, not a bunch of clones.

(I say this in my 100% white male department)


shrift - Mar 31, 2006 6:33:02 am PST #7559 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Okay. Letter of resignation printed, signed, and e-mail sent to Big Boss requesting a meeting.

Now I wait.

Argh.


§ ita § - Mar 31, 2006 6:33:51 am PST #7560 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

As long as they aren't firing you for being black (female, etc. -- in a protected class), they don't have to give a reason at all.

They can fire you for being white or male?


brenda m - Mar 31, 2006 6:35:27 am PST #7561 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Not that it's likely, but pretty much, yeah. Though every so often some guy sues Hooters or somewhere for not letting him pole dance.


brenda m - Mar 31, 2006 6:36:52 am PST #7562 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Anyone have any miracle tips for getting new shoes to stop making your heels bleed?


DavidS - Mar 31, 2006 6:39:10 am PST #7563 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

You are suppose to have diverse offices there, not a bunch of clones.

When I started there our unit was a hispanic female manager, ex-boss (female, but funky, not in the blonde republican mode LA Boss favors), ex-coworker (gay, black, 40s) and me.

Now it's pretty much wall-to-wall blonde country club republicans and southern california women (new coworker).

They can fire you for being white or male?

Race and sex are both protected classes, so you could definitely make a claim if you could prove you'd been discriminated against because you are white or male. To be honest, the stink they made about me and ex-coworker being hired does indicate an institutional anti-male bias in HR at least.