Oh god, I've totally had that happen -- it's so traumatic waiting around for a boss to be available for quitting!
Natter 43: I Love My Dead Gay Whale Crosspost.
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
I can't even believe Hec's employers can do that! I always thought you had to have written warnings and counselings and such before you were fired (unless your position was eliminated).
I'm guessing California, like New York, is an at-will employment state. As long as they aren't firing you for being black (female, etc. -- in a protected class), they don't have to give a reason at all.
Hec, you worked for HR, right? So even more shocking that your bosses can't handle a termination more gracefully.
As Jesse notes, it's an at-will state. But as Sophia and Theo note, they really handled it terribly and also (just from an HR perspective) left themselves open (just barely) to a wrongful termination suit.
I don't think I have a viable case, but by not documenting anything beforehand they left themselves vulnerable to an age-discrimination suit. My new (now ex) coworker is 23. If they hire another 23 y.o. woman for my position they're not going to look good. Particularly since when I and my original coworker were hired, there was much talk in the firm about the fact that we were men in our early 40s, and this was unusual and actually ruffling some feathers.
I know they were talking to one of the labor law Partners about the situation.
I don't want to paint a distorted picture of me as the perfect employee. I wasn't. I resented having my responsibilities with the recruiter scaled back to the level of typing and data input. My filing was way behind. But I did create a lot of systems to deal with the office's gaping holes. I built the MCLE tracking database from scratch and ran it for three cycles. Did quarterly vacation balance reports by downloading data from their crap-ass tracking system which didn't even do year-to-date accruals. I knew the payroll system, the applicant tracking system, the personnel action system way way better than anybody in my unit.
There were many things I did for them, and could do for them, but in the end they really wanted a glorified filing clerk.
40 is the line for age discrimination, right? Do you have any interest in using that to get more money out of them? That seems to me like the most egregious part.
Aside from just being wrong, that seems so un-San Franciscan. You are suppose to have diverse offices there, not a bunch of clones.
(I say this in my 100% white male department)
Okay. Letter of resignation printed, signed, and e-mail sent to Big Boss requesting a meeting.
Now I wait.
Argh.
As long as they aren't firing you for being black (female, etc. -- in a protected class), they don't have to give a reason at all.
They can fire you for being white or male?
Not that it's likely, but pretty much, yeah. Though every so often some guy sues Hooters or somewhere for not letting him pole dance.
Anyone have any miracle tips for getting new shoes to stop making your heels bleed?
You are suppose to have diverse offices there, not a bunch of clones.
When I started there our unit was a hispanic female manager, ex-boss (female, but funky, not in the blonde republican mode LA Boss favors), ex-coworker (gay, black, 40s) and me.
Now it's pretty much wall-to-wall blonde country club republicans and southern california women (new coworker).
They can fire you for being white or male?
Race and sex are both protected classes, so you could definitely make a claim if you could prove you'd been discriminated against because you are white or male. To be honest, the stink they made about me and ex-coworker being hired does indicate an institutional anti-male bias in HR at least.
Though every so often some guy sues Hooters or somewhere for not letting him pole dance.
Yeah, that was me. Sorry. When my muse calls, I must obey!
Sorry your former employers were such arse-hats, David. Good luck with the writing life - I really hope something good for you comes out of all of this.
I wish I could say that the cack-handedness of HR surprises me, but I cannot. Our HR office is located far too close to mine and the walls are too thin...
Good luck finding someone to quit to, shrift!