Also, how would this be different from 'pre-slash'?
In pre-slash, the author thinks they want to get it on.
(You like how I pull these definitions out of my ear and sound like I know what I'm talking about? I have a Master's, you know. I've practiced.)
So, if Jack and Sam cuddle without having sex, it's not smarm but UST, right?
Smarm's only ever used for same-sex pairings as far as I know, so, er, yeah, I'd call that UST.
Ehhh, Buffyverse was a lot less complicated, because people shipped everyone with anyone in Buffyverse (It's a het! It's a slash! It's a threesome! It's a big damn orgy!) and just marked the story by the character paring, like B/S, A/S/Dru, Whistler/Cordy, etc.
Hee. Yeah, actually I pointed that out in my reply to the initial post (since the person in question has previously written in Buffyverse, and was talking about the difference in usage). While Stargate is certainly organized around the Two Big Ships to a great extent, it's not as "everybody sleeps with everybody! Woo!" as Buffyverse is, and I think that's probably because Buffy the show was so much more about the interpersonal relationships than SG is.
(And also: Whistler/Cordy? Okay, that's a squick.)
it's a pretty old-school, X-Files-derived usage of the term
For some reason it felt very easy to map M/S onto SG1. I can kinda see it.
If smarm were ironically coyly
written
I might be able to handle it. If I have to bring my own, I might also need a killing spree to feel clean again.
Oh, Shipper wars.
t gets all warm and nostalgic
If smarm were ironically coyly written I might be able to handle it. If I have to bring my own, I might also need a killing spree to feel clean again.
I think you'll need the killing spree, then. Everything I've learned about smarm is that it's entirely unironic and gooey, not in a good porny way. I think the term arose in Sentinel fandom, but I could be wrong.
I think the term arose in Sentinel fandom, but I could be wrong.
Oh, I can totally see that.
Whistler/Cordy? Okay, that's a squick.
I've actually read one. A non-con no less. Not enough brain bleach in the Western Hemisphere.
It's weird thing to be in a dichotomous fandom like SG without clear pairing destination. I mean, I've read and loved some Jack/Sam and Jack/Daniel fic, but I'm not terribly emotionally invested in either pairing. And the *character* I'm most invested in is Jack, who's like the little black dress of fandom (but not Jack *in* a little black dress because uhm... no), so it's a win-win situation, no matter what I read.
but not Jack *in* little black dress because... uhm, no
Snerk.
The mind reels.
... Hmmm. A diplomatic mission, some bizarre ritual... I could see it. With lots of snark, and Daniel explaining everything so earnestly, and Carter snickering in the corner.
With lots of snark, and Daniel explaining everything so earnestly, and Carter snickering in the corner.
Hee!
OK, now, I want to read this fic. Can't you just imagine how outraged Jack would be? And the more pissed he became, the more his teammates would snicker... oh, a definite potential there.
I've actually read one. A non-con no less. Not enough brain bleach in the Western Hemisphere.
...see, now, that's just confusing. (On top of squicky.) They've never even met.
Jack, who's like the little black dress of fandom
It's all about Who Gets To Share Jack's Tent. Yes. *nods*
... Hmmm. A diplomatic mission, some bizarre ritual... I could see it. With lots of snark, and Daniel explaining everything so earnestly, and Carter snickering in the corner.
I am almost positive I've read this story. I've certainly read the "Jack has to wear a silly and/or revealing outfit" story more than once, and it has just now occurred to me that this is the equivalent of the X-Files "Mulder and Scully have to get dressed up and go to a compulsory ball!" story.
