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Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Fay - Feb 09, 2003 11:52:10 am PST #3387 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

I was working on one as recently as last night, in fact.

Woohoo!

(Loved the Darla/Connor, btw. Nicely done. Why yes, I have been making up for a tiny bit of my lost ficreading time today...)

I think you may have a point wrt the characterisation thing, but there is a lot of crazy-ass badfic out there, and SO many different agendas that it's difficult to make these kind of statements. Well, I find it difficult.

thinks

Sometimes writers put people together because they think "he's cute! and (s)he's cute! Yeah, that'd be hot!" without really giving a damn about good characterisation. Which isn't a particularly good thing, imho. YMMV.

If it's a canonical relationship, the show's writers have already done all the backstory and motivation stuff and the ficwriter can coast along on the back of this. Which isn't to say that they will, because if they're good then they have their own grasp of character and motivation that tallies with canon and develops naturally beyond it. But yes, noncanonical 'ships are a harder sell, so (good) writers don't have the option of coasting along. And I'd agree that it can be a hell of a lot of fun as a writer, getting to play with developing believable dynamics between characters who have little or no onscreen time. It's more of a challenge, but it's still bound by canonical knowledge of each character. Which is cool.

Eh, but I'm biased. I've written almost exclusively nonconventional relationships and/or interactions, some of which were even crossovers. It tickles my fancy.


P.M. Marc - Feb 09, 2003 11:58:02 am PST #3388 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

(Loved the Darla/Connor, btw. Nicely done. Why yes, I have been making up for a tiny bit of my lost ficreading time today...)

Why, thank you kindly! It's just a wee bit of the squicksome, but I'm somewhat fond of it.


Fay - Feb 09, 2003 12:12:06 pm PST #3389 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

It's just a wee bit of the squicksome, but I'm somewhat fond of it.

The only thing I've found squicksome of late was Ms Yarkona's Teletubby story.

shudders.

Although I didn't actually read it, so that may be judgmental of me. But I had a visceral "notevenifit'sthefunnieststoryintheworld" response, and had an attack of temporary blindness.

....so, any liklihood of Angel/Connor? Or Angelus/Connor? Since I am on the Express train to Special Hell...


P.M. Marc - Feb 09, 2003 12:14:28 pm PST #3390 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

....so, any liklihood of Angel/Connor? Or Angelus/Connor? Since I am on the Express train to Special Hell...

Funny you should mention that...

Umm. Yes, actually.


Fay - Feb 09, 2003 12:17:00 pm PST #3391 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

YAY!!!!


Fay - Feb 09, 2003 12:17:49 pm PST #3392 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Ahem.

Whoops. I appear to have misplace my soul. Oh well, never mind, eh?

t /Evil!Fay


P.M. Marc - Feb 09, 2003 12:19:54 pm PST #3393 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Does this mean leather pants?


Fay - Feb 09, 2003 12:22:14 pm PST #3394 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Possibly....


Lyra Jane - Feb 09, 2003 12:27:44 pm PST #3395 of 10000
Up with the sun

I can't see Angel/Connor any more than I could see Dawn/Buffy, and I have almost the same reaction to Angelus/Connor. Maybe if the fic started with Angelus vamping Connor, but then it's almost like a Spike/Angelus story with even more of an edge of joy in transgression. But that's me, and I'll be interested seeing what Plei does with the idea.

I did like the Darla/Connor ficlet, but I think it worked for me because it started from the premise that Darla didn't know who he or she was, and it's from her viewpoint, plus it's so short that the visceral disgust doesn't have time to set in.

I have no special opinion on canon/noncanon relationships; I read for plot first, writing second, characters third.


erikaj - Feb 09, 2003 1:01:18 pm PST #3396 of 10000
Always Anti-fascist!

I think I agree with Plei.I think you would have to "make more from less".Um, not that my opinion counts very much.