Willow: Yes. Hi. You must be Angel's handsome, yet androgynous, son. Connor: It's Connor. Willow: And the sneer's genetic. Who knew?

'A Hole in the World'


Natter 42, the Universe, and Everything  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, flaming otters, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Zenkitty - Feb 20, 2006 8:01:54 am PST #8247 of 10002
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

GA: Beauty, and the expression on her face, and the amazed way he says, "I love you". And how his whole speech finishes off with, "Alright then" and he walks off.

I liked the theme of speaking your piece, but there were more people who should'a spoke theirs.

And Addison needs to walk the hell away. She's staying out of guilt and he's staying out of duty, and it doesn't even matter anymore if they love each other or not, because of everything else that has got piled on top of the love.

I can't believe how into this show I am.


flea - Feb 20, 2006 8:19:07 am PST #8248 of 10002
information libertarian

Now jealous of GA-watchers. Not that I have ever been able to reliably watch a show that's on at 10pm, when all people who are me are already in bed.

Buffista survey du jour: What, if any, retirement funds do you have? I was thinking about the demise of the traditional pension. I currently work for a University with a pension fund for biweekly-paid (i.e. lower-income) employees like me. You don't vest until you've been here 5 years as as far as I can tell if you leave before you've been here 15 years AND hit 45 years old you get nothing. There's also an option of a 403(b) but no employer matching. So basically I have no employer-sponsored retirement. All my retirement funds are currently in IRAs I fund myself, and have been doing since I was 23.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 20, 2006 8:23:53 am PST #8249 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I've got a 403(b) with not matching, a pension that I'm fully vested in (not sure what the details are if I leave), and a 401(a) which involves the company putting a % of my salary each year (% based on how the year has gone). I'm always afraid I'm not putting enough in the 403(b). No IRAs yet.


Stephanie - Feb 20, 2006 8:27:51 am PST #8250 of 10002
Trust my rage

I'm also jealous of those watching GA. it should be at home on my Tivo, but the whitefont is taunting me.

Hmmm, retirement. Well, in our case, Joe can "retire" in another 5 years. From that point on he will get 50% of his base pay as a "pension." Our medical is (mostly) included in that, although I think we only get 80% covered if we don't use military medical facilities. Still, it's pretty good, I guess.


Zenkitty - Feb 20, 2006 8:29:31 am PST #8251 of 10002
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I have a 401k in which I'm fully vested, with a company match up to 4% of my salary (which I take advantage of), and a company-sponsored retirement plan that doesn't provide a whole lot but has so far not been taken away. No IRAs or anything else. No point in socking away money at ~4% return when I've still got debts that I'm paying 9% interest on. When those are paid off (this year, I plan) I will get a Roth IRA.

But good on you, flea, for funding your own IRA since you were 23! I wish I had been so wise; I didn't start seriously saving for retirement until I was 37.


Topic!Cindy - Feb 20, 2006 8:31:21 am PST #8252 of 10002
What is even happening?

I've got bupkis other than Social Security, and I haven't contributed to Social Security in ten years. When I quit my job when Ben was born (10 years ago), I took my pension money, so we'd have the down payment for a house. Dh also took his. We paid a higher tax rate penalty-ish thing, but we never would have been able to put 20% down on our first house, otherwise. Dh has a 401K he's been contributing to (and a %age of which is matched by his employer) for the past 10ish years, though. Still, we're very far behind for our ages (almost 42--him; almost 39--me).


flea - Feb 20, 2006 8:33:21 am PST #8253 of 10002
information libertarian

I got a small windfall from my grandmother and decided I needed to educate myself about what to do with it. I had no debt except deferred student loans (I was in gradual school) at the time, so an IRA seemed like a smart choice.


brenda m - Feb 20, 2006 8:40:10 am PST #8254 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I have a pretty small 401k, which I didn't stay in the job long enough for the employer match to vest. I really need to get back into the 401k at my current employer, but haven't yet.


P.M. Marc - Feb 20, 2006 8:42:08 am PST #8255 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Paul's got something somewhat like you do, Flea, and I, personally, have nothing but SS. I've never been in a good position to set anything up, even though I know I need to do so.

Paul had a 401K that he had to raid post-baby so we could eat and pay bills.


Kathy A - Feb 20, 2006 8:55:17 am PST #8256 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I have a 401(k) that I'm fully vested in (took five years). The company puts in (usually) 6% of my salary once a year (2004 profits sucked so badly that they only put in 3%, but they went back up to 6 for 2005). As for my own contributions, I'm with Zenkitty in that my credit card payments are a hell of a lot higher than the return I'd be getting with the plan. Once I finally get them knocked out, I'm hoping to start putting something into it. We used to have a full pension, but that got eliminated when the company went from family-owned to Dutch-conglomerate-owned back in 1996.

I probably won't have nearly enough when I turn 67, so I'll be relying on Social Security.