Anya: We should drop a piano on her. It always works for that creepy cartoon rabbit when he's running from that nice man with the speech impediment. Giles: Yes, or perhaps we could paint a convincing fake tunnel on the side of a mountain.

'Touched'


Natter 42, the Universe, and Everything  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, flaming otters, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Trudy Booth - Feb 01, 2006 12:36:51 pm PST #4319 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I think the fragile brain on a stem thing makes sense on the "wouldn't want to live like that" front. Before modern medicine how many brain injured people actualy DID?

[Please note: I'm not suggesting brain injured people should not live. I'm suggesting that for hunter gatherers (or bunny rabbits for that matter) to take care of community members with disrupted higher functions likely didn't work so many critters evolved on an "all or nothing" track higher-function wise.]


DavidS - Feb 01, 2006 12:42:14 pm PST #4320 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'm pretty sure some insects have brain functions in their torsos or knees or whatnot, but evolution didn't branch that way for any of the mammals. Must be some pressure not to.


Spidra Webster - Feb 01, 2006 12:44:13 pm PST #4321 of 10002
I wish I could just go somewhere to get flensed but none of the whaling ships near me take Medicare.

And, really, how often are people attacked and decapitated?

I was watching Farenheit 9/11 for the first time last night (I put off watching it for so long because my own depression was so bad that the real world reasons to be depressed were too much to add on) and they showed a clip of a public beheading in Jedda, Saudi Arabia. I thought they'd pull away from the actual beheading, but they didn't. The executioner did *not* get it on the first swing.

I imagine the head was a better target in the days of swordplay than it is now.


§ ita § - Feb 01, 2006 12:44:22 pm PST #4322 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Must be some pressure not to.

Same pressure that gave us the knee? I figure sometimes stuff just works well enough to not have the species die out. Get us as far as sapience, and we'll start picking up the slack.


§ ita § - Feb 01, 2006 12:45:36 pm PST #4323 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I imagine the head was a better target in the days of swordplay than it is now.

It's still really hard to pull off the in-combat decapitation, though. Unless you're a Macleod.


Spidra Webster - Feb 01, 2006 12:48:43 pm PST #4324 of 10002
I wish I could just go somewhere to get flensed but none of the whaling ships near me take Medicare.

Well, I'm glad for the head because the face is one of the first physical things that attracts me about a person. And otherwise we'd have to say "giving chest" or something.


§ ita § - Feb 01, 2006 12:50:11 pm PST #4325 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Going for the triple! Can she do it?

Richard Huff really dislikes Jon Stewart.

During November, the political high season in which Stewart and his cohorts supposedly thrive, the show averaged 1.45 million viewers.
For comparison, Nielsen estimates there are 218 million people over the age of 18 in the nation's 112 million homes with televisions.
That's a lot of people not getting Stewart's comedy.

You can tell because he saves the simple step of noting that not all 112 million homes have Comedy Central until two sentences later. I hate that kind of writing.


DavidS - Feb 01, 2006 12:57:08 pm PST #4326 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Unless you're a Macleod.

Speaking of which, Highlander is now up at Angry Alien bunny productions.


shrift - Feb 01, 2006 12:59:54 pm PST #4327 of 10002
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Highlander is now up at Angry Alien bunny productions

I AM IN LOVE.


billytea - Feb 01, 2006 1:04:45 pm PST #4328 of 10002
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I'm pretty sure some insects have brain functions in their torsos or knees or whatnot, but evolution didn't branch that way for any of the mammals. Must be some pressure not to.

You do get the odd "You can't get there from here" moments in evolution. It'd be a pretty major restructuring to have the brain migrate to parts south (or, in my brother's case, parts north), and I'm not convinced the intermediary steps would be particularly effective (eg, having your brain in your neck). Even if there were a significant advantage, I doubt it would happen.

Incidentally, I'm thinking that one consideration here is the brain needs to be very firmly encased, which means a solid bone covering (though the recent discovery of the world's smallest fish - was it tommyrot linked to it? - doesn't have a skull, as I recall), while most creatures want pretty flexible torsos to make high-speed travel easier. That could suggest an advantage in the current arrangement.

Same pressure that gave us the knee? I figure sometimes stuff just works well enough to not have the species die out. Get us as far as sapience, and we'll start picking up the slack.

Yeah, pretty much. The knee isn't really very well designed for bipedal living. Pops too easily. But it's a leftover from our quadrupedal heritage, like the plumbing arrangements that make us susceptible to hernias. But as long as the bipedal stance offers more advantages, we live with the drawbacks. Like Kriss Kross wearing their jeans backwards.