You'll fight, and you'll shag, and you'll hate each other till it makes you quiver, but you'll never be friends.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Natter 42, the Universe, and Everything  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, flaming otters, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Jan 22, 2006 7:53:09 pm PST #2045 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Wasn't tonight a repeat?

It was a repeat of Wednesday, unless I've missed more than I thought.

I was going to say that Jamaica was about half a generation behind in dental health care, but I think we're catching up.


Cass - Jan 22, 2006 8:13:05 pm PST #2046 of 10002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Mile High has been watched but I am not sure how happy it made me. I need to go look at the Web site. t time passes Damn. There's not a lot there that makes me happy. Grrr. And I liked Will better as a blonde. Suited the character.


Cass - Jan 22, 2006 8:39:44 pm PST #2047 of 10002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

huh. My Notepad is like a way back machine.

Anyway, Gina sleeps with a guy against her desires in this one, to keep her cover. And then she weeps and asks Trudy to burn the dress she'd been wearing. I'm not wanting to imply that sleeping with guys for pragmatic reasons is fun, but it seems to be so often portrayed as terribly devastating for a woman, and never seems to come up (or just be part of getting too deep into cover) for the guys. Is that dramatic license, an extension of the whole fate worse than death thing?
I think it is dramatic license taken to an extreme. The situations will obviously be different each time but I don't think it is exceptionally traumatic so long as it is consensual, even if you are consensing for reasons other than actually wanting to have sex. She could have blown her cover, she chose not to. But she made the choice.

getting raves on the makeup boards, especially from people with combo skin.
Plei, where are these mythical makeup boards?


bon bon - Jan 22, 2006 8:58:39 pm PST #2048 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

This was a while ago but

FTR, Urth Caffe rocks for people watching, but that nagging feeling that you should know the very able-looking guys who parked their Rolls in the handicapped spot can get distracting.

Was it Brett Ratner?

Edited to fix my second Bruce/Brett Ratner error today.


msbelle - Jan 23, 2006 1:40:31 am PST #2049 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

GA continues to break me.

The two hour nap yesterday led to sleeping from 11:30 to 5:30. I feel good though - stretched some, saluted the sun - and now, yummy malt-o-meal.


Tom Scola - Jan 23, 2006 1:42:19 am PST #2050 of 10002
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

You have sun, msbelle? It's all rainy and crappy where I am.


msbelle - Jan 23, 2006 1:46:11 am PST #2051 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I salute an imaginary sun, it is on my livingroom wall.


Theodosia - Jan 23, 2006 2:01:14 am PST #2052 of 10002
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

There is about a half inch of S N O W on everything outside -- quite disturbing, as it was up in the 60s this weekend. I'd like the weather to decide on something and stick with it....


§ ita § - Jan 23, 2006 3:21:07 am PST #2053 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But Cass, it's so much a chick thing, and it's painted as the worst thing ever. I'm not saying it's fun, or even something to shrug off, but she kills the guy in the end of the episode, and it feels like that's the only just end to the story. It's somewhat akin to the reformed prostitute who can't put out without heart just one more time to save the man she loves.

Why don't guys get those dilemmas? In real life, women can regard sex as business. TV and movies seems to have forgotten that a sympathetic woman can do any dissociation.

Bon, it was a bunch of black guys and an Asian chick. So we need to add to the Ratnerian files.

I just realised that my neuro appointment overlaps with my work status meeting. Why did I not check these things before I accepted the invitation? Pff.


Hil R. - Jan 23, 2006 4:00:58 am PST #2054 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Gronklies. It's not quite 9, and I've already taught one class today. It went pretty well, I think. Kind of found some little bit of energy, and did a lot of "who wants to come up to the board and show how to do this problem?" stuff, which I've been told I should do more of anyway. So now collapsing. Soon, will find coffee. (Well, soon will buy coffee. Coffee is everywhere, so no finding needed. Starbucks in this building, coffee cart outside the building, Starbucks across the street, random over-priced coffee across the street in the other direction, Au Bon Pain down the block. Lots of coffee available.)