Can't even shout, Can't even cry. The Gentlemen are coming by. Looking in windows, knocking on doors. They need to take seven, and they might take yours. Can't call to mom, can't say a word. You're gonna die screaming but you won't be heard.

Dream Girl ,'Bring On The Night'


Spike's Bitches 28: For the Safety of Puppies...and Christmas!  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Trudy Booth - Jan 18, 2006 9:20:35 am PST #5075 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I think a lot of young women cause themselves stress by being so goal-oriented about orgasms.

Just do stuff that feels nice. Stop stuff that isnt. Enjoy what is happening because that is what matters. Orgasms are great and fun but they're not the only good-feeling thing about sex.


Vortex - Jan 18, 2006 9:21:37 am PST #5076 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

If this was an accident, I feel sort of badly for him that he's even gotten detention.

He may be being punished for creating a situation where the accident happened. For example, if a kid is running with scissors, and happens to cut someone completely by accident, he's punished for running with scissors, not the cutting.


Steph L. - Jan 18, 2006 9:23:03 am PST #5077 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Heh. Just got a visual of Richard Pryor's bit: "Now just relax while I kickstart this thing. VRMMMMMMMMM!"

This made me literally snort water through my nose just now, and seeing as how the water is carbonated, I now have nose pain thanks to Hec (and Richard Pryor).


Trudy Booth - Jan 18, 2006 9:24:04 am PST #5078 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Sports probably help TEACH impulse control. (Though I can certainly understand the "you don't get to do the thing you like if you do ______" approach)

Maybe a whole bunch of structure? Some of it even silly? The military loves that approach.

"You knocked your sister over, drop and give me twenty"


WindSparrow - Jan 18, 2006 9:28:27 am PST #5079 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Gris, ADD definitely can interfere with sexual response, as can any number of medications. It can also make it difficult for her to make connections and express clearly what sensations would be pleasurable. Gershwin Girl might do well to take this up with her doctor, or a specialist, should she have an opportunity.

MG, I'd like to chime in on the side of allowing the baseball, at least provisionally. There has to be some way of teaching him better ways to think clearly in the heat of the moment. I bet when he is calm, he knows all too well that there are serious consequenses to screwing up, and he lives in fear knowing that his next screw-up could happen at any time.


DavidS - Jan 18, 2006 9:31:24 am PST #5080 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I think a lot of young women cause themselves stress by being so goal-oriented about orgasms.

I think this is a useful point too. She's not trying to learn how to have orgasms, she's trying to learn how her body responds and feels. That should be more the focus I think.

My internal response to Teppy's pain nose is this: hee hee.


SuziQ - Jan 18, 2006 9:31:36 am PST #5081 of 10001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Yes, Windsparrow. You have CJ down to a t.

He is a good kid at heart. Which is what makes the rest of this so frustrating.


Steph L. - Jan 18, 2006 9:37:56 am PST #5082 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

My internal response to Teppy's pain nose is this: hee hee.

You mock my pain. Now I weep.


DCJensen - Jan 18, 2006 9:39:53 am PST #5083 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Hold me closer, tiny fencer....

My exact thought!


JZ - Jan 18, 2006 9:40:33 am PST #5084 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Gris, you are indeed a most excellent boyfriend. Gershwin Girl's response pattern sounds a lot like my own when I was in my early 20s, whipsawing from 0 to overstimulated to STOP STOP STOP IT HURTS in about eleven seconds. Weirdly, one thing that helped me relax and get to orgasm-having was letting go of the need for orgasm; my body was so sexually ferwonky and I was so over-thinky that I constantly got in my own way.

I was really, really lucky to have a much more experienced, very patient lover who was willing to both talk and play, and who helped me guide myself away from the thinkiness and anxiety. The thing that finally got me there was training myself to not think about coming at all: it might never happen, I might never be able to, and worrying about it was doing nothing but spoiling the pleasures I was feeling right that moment. Even if I never came once in my whole life, I knew that I did enjoy cuddling and petting and oral sex; the more I disengaged my mind from the great big thing they weren't, the more I was able to be present and attentive to the small enjoyable things they were.

For me, it was all about shutting all the what-next? voices up, shutting down the competitive plotty/planny analysis-driven wordy brain. Which was terrifying for me, as someone who'd lived almost entirely inside her brain up to then and didn't value much about herself besides that brain. The un-wordy lizard brain pleasures (especially the ferocity of the brink-of-overstimulation sensation) can be totally unnerving; it really is a little death, and if you've never been there it's hard to believe you can come back from it. Or it was for me, anyhow. The whole process was a huge leap into darkness for me.

It sounds like you're both on the right track and lucky to have each other.