Me too. This was a very good season. I think getting actual answers to questions also helped make it better.
There's more than one way to skin a cat. And I happen to know that's factually true.
Mayor ,'Lies My Parents Told Me'
Lost 2: Tied to a Tree in a Jungle of Mystery
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sumi - May 23, 2009 5:53:16 am PDT #5025 of 5968
Art Crawl!!!
omnis_audis - May 23, 2009 12:29:51 pm PDT #5026 of 5968
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir
So glad I didn't zap the season finale. OK, here are some rewatch observations.
- love how blonde says towards the end, when seeing Dharma security rushing towards site, and needing to help Jack "live together, die alone", very foreshadowing.
- Man in Black, nemisis for Jacob (did we ever catch his name? I'm bad with names). The *whole thing* is about those two. Jacob is trying to keep order and balance on the island. He is trying to find people to do that through time. He sends those folks back in time/thru time to do just that. This is why some of the Guam flight goes back and some stay. MIB is trying to ___ not sure, but loophole to kill Jacob. I'm guessing he can't directly kill him. I'm guessing Jacob, somewhere in time, learns two will enter the room to kill him, hence the always "only the one he calls can enter". I'm guessing he knows that's Ben, which is why he never gave audience to Ben. Clearly MIB takes the spirit of Locke. The bomb not initially going off, it was timed with the edits, the jumps back & forth. Jacob didn't need that to go off just yet. But once he was killed/burned, he needed that reset that he set into motion, and Boom! So? Maybe that helps make it so Jacob isn't dead. I dunno. That whole time/space continuum really depends on what the writers want it to be. Logic... Meet open window, right?
- At first I thought the end splash screen being opposite contrasts than normal was because of the flash of the bomb. BUT! What if it shows who has control of the island. I couldn't help but notice that in the beginning, Jacob was wearing white, and MIB was, well, wearing black. So? Does the field show who is in opposition, and word show who is in control? Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I was like "Ya!" the second I saw it.
Clearly, the show is better watched when awake, and not dragging ass through an 80 hour work week.
Nora Deirdre - May 23, 2009 1:52:15 pm PDT #5027 of 5968
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)
Man in Black Shirt was not named, you didn't miss that.
However, I got the sense that Jacob was not all about order and balance- he kept bringing new people to the Island, which really annoyed his nemesis- I think Jacob is more about chaos and free will, actually.
Maybe I'm reading too much into it...
AHAHAHA. You should check out some of the Lostpedia forums/theory pages. All sorts of reading lots into EVERYTHING.
Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - May 23, 2009 10:40:38 pm PDT #5028 of 5968
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"
I'm guessing Jacob, somewhere in time, learns two will enter the room to kill him, hence the always "only the one he calls can enter". I'm guessing he knows that's Ben, which is why he never gave audience to Ben.
Ooh, I like that theory.
Does the field show who is in opposition, and word show who is in control?
Interesting. Like a chess board.
Clearly MIB takes the spirit of Locke.
I'm thinking he's been every dead person we've ever seen post-death. Blatant thievery from Joss (First Evil), but puts a fun spin on things.
omnis_audis - May 24, 2009 12:19:46 am PDT #5029 of 5968
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir
I'm thinking he's been every dead person we've ever seen post-deathOoo. Curious! I wonder what the signifigence is for each person he takes on? Clearly Ben's daughter and Jacks father make sense. Was MIB haunting Hugo? Or is Hugo just nuts?
Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - May 24, 2009 1:03:58 am PDT #5030 of 5968
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"
Or is Hugo just nuts?
That is the unanswerable question...!
Juliebird - May 24, 2009 1:13:37 am PDT #5031 of 5968
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
well, wasn't it Dead!Charlie who convinced Hugo to go back to the island, or was at least urging him to go back? And then Jacob gets in the cab with him and gives him the guitar. Were the Dead!Charlie visits counter to Jacob's?
Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - May 24, 2009 1:20:44 am PDT #5032 of 5968
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"
Were the Dead!Charlie visits counter to Jacob's?
So maybe Hugo's been seeing Jacob and other people have been seeing MIB? Interesting. It sort of works. If you don't worry too much about which is which.
le nubian - May 24, 2009 5:31:51 am PDT #5033 of 5968
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
I don't think Jacob's rival is the same being who appeared before Ben as his daughter. Locke was surprised to learn that Ben was following him because his daughter told him to.
Jacob's rival shouldn't have been surprised at this if he was involved in both things.
I believe "The Black Smoke" is another entity that is separate from Jacob and his rival.
omnis_audis - May 24, 2009 10:01:27 am PDT #5034 of 5968
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir
I believe "The Black Smoke" is another entity that is separate from Jacob and his rival.Ya, the black smoke thing confuses me. Sure, the polar bears were explained. Butt never the smoke. Even Ben was like 'eh, we don't know entirely'. Is the black smoke the MIB dude?
Locke was surprised to learn that Ben was following him because his daughter told him to.That is a good point. If it was a MIB game, he would know all the players.