Ten percent of nothing is -- let me do the math here -- nothing into nothing, carry the --

Jayne ,'Serenity'


Lost 2: Tied to a Tree in a Jungle of Mystery  

[NAFDA] This is where we talk about the show! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Jon B. - May 20, 2009 3:45:54 am PDT #5020 of 5968
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

If the plane doesn't crash and they *still* all end up back on the island, I'll be delighted.

That could be satisfying, depending on how its done. It would also be a nice parallel to how Desmond could only postpone Charlie's death, not prevent it.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - May 20, 2009 4:57:01 am PDT #5021 of 5968
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

It would also be a nice parallel to how Desmond could only postpone Charlie's death, not prevent it.

Indeed. They've really being pushing the 'you can't change anything' line. It would be interesting to see them take that further.


Laura - May 20, 2009 5:14:05 am PDT #5022 of 5968
Our wings are not tired.

It would be cool to have the various dead people come back and die again. Danielle and Alex, Charlie, etc.


Topic!Cindy - May 22, 2009 6:01:02 pm PDT #5023 of 5968
What is even happening?

If the plane doesn't crash and they *still* all end up back on the island, I'll be delighted.

That could be satisfying, depending on how its done. It would also be a nice parallel to how Desmond could only postpone Charlie's death, not prevent it.

I almost think that has to happen, somehow. The island is a character unto itself.

I think this has been my favorite season of Lost, which doesn't seem right, and yet...


Theodosia - May 23, 2009 3:37:43 am PDT #5024 of 5968
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

No, I'm with you, actually -- especially because we got away from so much focus on Jack and Kate. Right there, that improved it for me.


sumi - May 23, 2009 5:53:16 am PDT #5025 of 5968
Art Crawl!!!

Me too. This was a very good season. I think getting actual answers to questions also helped make it better.


omnis_audis - May 23, 2009 12:29:51 pm PDT #5026 of 5968
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

So glad I didn't zap the season finale. OK, here are some rewatch observations.

  • love how blonde says towards the end, when seeing Dharma security rushing towards site, and needing to help Jack "live together, die alone", very foreshadowing.

  • Man in Black, nemisis for Jacob (did we ever catch his name? I'm bad with names). The *whole thing* is about those two. Jacob is trying to keep order and balance on the island. He is trying to find people to do that through time. He sends those folks back in time/thru time to do just that. This is why some of the Guam flight goes back and some stay. MIB is trying to ___ not sure, but loophole to kill Jacob. I'm guessing he can't directly kill him. I'm guessing Jacob, somewhere in time, learns two will enter the room to kill him, hence the always "only the one he calls can enter". I'm guessing he knows that's Ben, which is why he never gave audience to Ben. Clearly MIB takes the spirit of Locke. The bomb not initially going off, it was timed with the edits, the jumps back & forth. Jacob didn't need that to go off just yet. But once he was killed/burned, he needed that reset that he set into motion, and Boom! So? Maybe that helps make it so Jacob isn't dead. I dunno. That whole time/space continuum really depends on what the writers want it to be. Logic... Meet open window, right?

  • At first I thought the end splash screen being opposite contrasts than normal was because of the flash of the bomb. BUT! What if it shows who has control of the island. I couldn't help but notice that in the beginning, Jacob was wearing white, and MIB was, well, wearing black. So? Does the field show who is in opposition, and word show who is in control? Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I was like "Ya!" the second I saw it.

Clearly, the show is better watched when awake, and not dragging ass through an 80 hour work week.


Nora Deirdre - May 23, 2009 1:52:15 pm PDT #5027 of 5968
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Man in Black Shirt was not named, you didn't miss that.

However, I got the sense that Jacob was not all about order and balance- he kept bringing new people to the Island, which really annoyed his nemesis- I think Jacob is more about chaos and free will, actually.

Maybe I'm reading too much into it...

AHAHAHA. You should check out some of the Lostpedia forums/theory pages. All sorts of reading lots into EVERYTHING.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - May 23, 2009 10:40:38 pm PDT #5028 of 5968
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

I'm guessing Jacob, somewhere in time, learns two will enter the room to kill him, hence the always "only the one he calls can enter". I'm guessing he knows that's Ben, which is why he never gave audience to Ben.

Ooh, I like that theory.

Does the field show who is in opposition, and word show who is in control?

Interesting. Like a chess board.

Clearly MIB takes the spirit of Locke.

I'm thinking he's been every dead person we've ever seen post-death. Blatant thievery from Joss (First Evil), but puts a fun spin on things.


omnis_audis - May 24, 2009 12:19:46 am PDT #5029 of 5968
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

I'm thinking he's been every dead person we've ever seen post-death
Ooo. Curious! I wonder what the signifigence is for each person he takes on? Clearly Ben's daughter and Jacks father make sense. Was MIB haunting Hugo? Or is Hugo just nuts?