Giles: I'm sure we're all perfectly safe. Dawn: We're safe. Right. And Spike built a robot Buffy to play checkers with. Tara: It sounded convincing when I thought it.

'Dirty Girls'


Lost 2: Tied to a Tree in a Jungle of Mystery  

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Kevin - May 24, 2007 11:14:28 am PDT #3533 of 5968
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Okay, did ABC have a Q&A thing with the producers after the show? I heard that was the original plan.

I want to know what time line they're going to take from now. If it stays in 2004esque timeline, they will have to do everything leading up to the Kate/Jack scenes in 2007. That's calling writing yourself into a corner.

Personally -- and I had suspicions about this, but wasn't plot spoiled -- I think they've done the reset switch. It solves a lot of the mythology problems they've got, and is a bit Aliasish. Basically, they can take the next season as they see fit I suspect.

That said? I think the last hour of that was outstanding in places. I did have a problem with the not knowing who to trust, though. Ben's a great character.


Polter-Cow - May 24, 2007 11:18:49 am PDT #3534 of 5968
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Someone in the TWoP thread (it's a good but annoying read: I think they've basically guessed EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER to be in the coffin) made the interesting comment that we may look back at the first three seasons of Lost to be the plodding introduction to the real story.

How do you think this resets in any way, Kevin? How does this solve any mythology problems? Unless you think they'll really shift the major narrative into 2007.


Kevin - May 24, 2007 11:31:10 am PDT #3535 of 5968
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Time on the island goes slow, we think. As in, the series doesn't take place in the usual time frame to other shows. Maybe Jack and Kate left just 'now' (ie about a month in), and that's actually 2007 in The Real World. I dunno.

Reset wise, they can shift the focus of the series now if they want. For example, they could run the series in 2007, and have the flash backs be the island. And then have Jack go back to the Island once he finds it. Yadada.

Although then none of the references Kate and Jack make, make sense. From the looks of them, a lot of time has passed.

So many questions. So few answers. Welcome to Lost.


Hayden - May 24, 2007 11:38:01 am PDT #3536 of 5968
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Having Bentham in the coffin is actually sort of funny: [link]


-t - May 24, 2007 12:26:59 pm PDT #3537 of 5968
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Heh. That certainly makes Jack's horrified refusal of the offer of opening the casket much more amusing.


Kevin - May 24, 2007 12:35:58 pm PDT #3538 of 5968
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

I rewatch bits. Matthew can act.

Also, whoever died caused Jack to pull over and cry about it, and phone Kate. Kate didn't seem too bothered about the death. Maybe glad. Whoever it may be, the writers don't even need to know at this stage, I suppose.

I actually sussed it was a flash forward when Jack started to speak on the phone -- his first word is 'Khey'. Sounds like Kate. And Hey. Together.

All in all, I liked the finale a lot. Although I'm iffy on the flash forward stuff as I don't think the writers know what they're doing with it.


Kevin - May 24, 2007 1:07:29 pm PDT #3539 of 5968
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Holy crap. I just swap the ratings for last night -- they're down 10 million from last year's finale.

Edit: No, actually, I'm wrong, it's not quite that much. But it's still well, well down.


sumi - May 24, 2007 5:36:41 pm PDT #3540 of 5968
Art Crawl!!!

That's too bad. I thought that the finale was excellent.


quester - May 24, 2007 5:37:19 pm PDT #3541 of 5968
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I think the crappy early season and the long break really hurt it. They may have "lost" viewers who didn't bother to check out the new, improved late season.


le nubian - May 25, 2007 3:02:06 am PDT #3542 of 5968
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

everyone's down. AI is down at least 10 million viewers. Part of me wonders if Nielsen is having some technological freak out or something.

Also, I find it coincidental that the missing TV viewers corresponds to the missing bees. I didn't know bees watched that much tv!