Buffy: He ran away, right? Giles: Sort of, more. turned and swept out majestically, I suppose. Said I didn't concern him. Buffy: So a mythic triumph over a completely indifferent foe? Giles: Well, I'm not dead or unconscious, so I say bravo for me.

'Same Time, Same Place'


Lost 2: Tied to a Tree in a Jungle of Mystery  

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Vonnie K - Nov 17, 2005 5:51:13 am PST #267 of 5968
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

For the first 20 minutes, I thought they were playing out the series as it was originally planned. So Ana-Lucia = the character arc as envisioned for Kate, i.e. the flawed leader of the gang, Goodwin = Jack, since he looked like the leader (Big Hero Guy, Peace Corps, etc.) who we know ends up dying early, Mr. Eko = Locke, Nathan = Ethan, etc. Then of course, they did the big reveal about Goodwin so the theory no longer held water.

I found it enjoyable enough, although choppy. But then, I don't really have much expectations about getting answers for big mysteries. At this point, I want to see the big Bernard/Rose reunion more than I want to get answers about OMGWTF POLAR BEAR.


Wolfram - Nov 17, 2005 5:55:59 am PST #268 of 5968
Visilurking

I liked last night's show a little better, but they still have some serious pacing issues in the writing. You'd think wrapping 48 days into 45 minutes wouldn't drag so damn much.

How come it takes 4 days for Ana to ask Goodwin what happened to Nathan? Didn't anyone notice their prisoner was missing? You'd think there'd be a serious trust issue in the entire group that would make it implausible for her to hike with him to the top of the mountain and split them up. And handing him the knife when she knows he's an Other?


Frankenbuddha - Nov 17, 2005 5:59:24 am PST #269 of 5968
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Actually, I thought she was incredibly stupid to go off to the top of a mountain, and then confront him alone.

I'm curious about when she started to suspect him. I'm not sure if she had him figured out before they started up - she seemed sure, but she could have been putting it together at that moment.

Granted, if that's the case, then it would have been smarter to deal with it later than while she was alone.


Ailleann - Nov 17, 2005 6:02:42 am PST #270 of 5968
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

Sayid + off deep end = v. v. good

I'm looking forward to Ana and Sayid taking turns beating the crap out of each other. She's some kinda badass. Wouldn't it be fun if Kate knew her from prison?

So maybe the Others (the ones stealing people) are some kind of nutty bunch of castaways who are trying to supplement their own community? Kill off the strongest, take the children and adults who might be useful, leave the rest to die? And it didn't work so well with the Frontenders because 1) there were more of them, and 2) they were already forming their own little community, which would be harder to infiltrate.


Frankenbuddha - Nov 17, 2005 6:06:19 am PST #271 of 5968
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

And it didn't work so well with the Frontenders because 1) there were more of them, and 2) they were already forming their own little community, which would be harder to infiltrate.

I also suspect they might have been further away from the Others than the tailies, and there might have been dangers in the jungle between them that even the Others have trouble dealing with.


Laura - Nov 17, 2005 6:09:01 am PST #272 of 5968
Our wings are not tired.

and kinda looked like Ethan too

The names Nathan and Ethan were too similar for me to be convinced that Nathan was an Other.

What I want to know about is the "List" of 9 and how they were obtained, chosen, etc.

It wasn't my favorite episode. Uneven. It just didn't flow right for me.


Steph L. - Nov 17, 2005 6:11:46 am PST #273 of 5968
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

What I want to know about is the "List" of 9 and how they were obtained, chosen, etc.

Well, Traitor!guy said that Nathan "wasn't a good person" and that was why he wasn't on the list. (Granted, I don't know if we can take anything that Traitor!guy said at face value, since he was, in fact, a traitor, but right now it's all we have to go on.)


Frankenbuddha - Nov 17, 2005 6:15:54 am PST #274 of 5968
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Well, Traitor!guy said that Nathan "wasn't a good person" and that was why he wasn't on the list.

If he meant what he said, this could be interesting in that I'd be curious to know what the Others' think constitutes being a good person or not. Also, it makes me curious what Nathan was doing for two hours in the jungle.

Then again, maybe I DON'T want to know what he was off doing for two hours by himself. Ewww.


§ ita § - Nov 17, 2005 6:49:18 am PST #275 of 5968
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The whole "they took the able" theory is weird with Eko still around. Isn't he the biggest and the buffest and pretty damned useful?

he was, in fact, a traitor

I don't think he was a traitor - he was never on their side to betray them. He was an infiltrator, whose loyalties never swayed.


Frankenbuddha - Nov 17, 2005 6:52:30 am PST #276 of 5968
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

The whole "they took the able" theory is weird with Eko still around. Isn't he the biggest and the buffest and pretty damned useful?

I thought they tried and he killed two of them. Or are you talking after that point?