Early: You folks are all insane. Simon: Well, my sister's a ship. We had a complicated childhood.

'Objects In Space'


Lost 2: Tied to a Tree in a Jungle of Mystery  

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Steph L. - Nov 17, 2005 6:11:46 am PST #273 of 5968
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

What I want to know about is the "List" of 9 and how they were obtained, chosen, etc.

Well, Traitor!guy said that Nathan "wasn't a good person" and that was why he wasn't on the list. (Granted, I don't know if we can take anything that Traitor!guy said at face value, since he was, in fact, a traitor, but right now it's all we have to go on.)


Frankenbuddha - Nov 17, 2005 6:15:54 am PST #274 of 5968
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Well, Traitor!guy said that Nathan "wasn't a good person" and that was why he wasn't on the list.

If he meant what he said, this could be interesting in that I'd be curious to know what the Others' think constitutes being a good person or not. Also, it makes me curious what Nathan was doing for two hours in the jungle.

Then again, maybe I DON'T want to know what he was off doing for two hours by himself. Ewww.


§ ita § - Nov 17, 2005 6:49:18 am PST #275 of 5968
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The whole "they took the able" theory is weird with Eko still around. Isn't he the biggest and the buffest and pretty damned useful?

he was, in fact, a traitor

I don't think he was a traitor - he was never on their side to betray them. He was an infiltrator, whose loyalties never swayed.


Frankenbuddha - Nov 17, 2005 6:52:30 am PST #276 of 5968
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

The whole "they took the able" theory is weird with Eko still around. Isn't he the biggest and the buffest and pretty damned useful?

I thought they tried and he killed two of them. Or are you talking after that point?


DXMachina - Nov 17, 2005 6:53:52 am PST #277 of 5968
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

The whole "they took the able" theory is weird with Eko still around.

Well, he did kill the ones who tried to take him. If you believe what Goodwin was telling Ana, the first batch taken were the biggest and ablest, the threats. The second batch were the good ones (or nice ones, or something like that).


Amy - Nov 17, 2005 6:56:49 am PST #278 of 5968
Because books.

It bothered me, too, that Ana Lucia and the others went on so long about not seeing Nathan on the plane, but not one of them seemed to not remember seeing Goodwin on the plane. At that point, wouldn't you have been trying to place everyone?

Misdirects irritate me more and more lately. Why didn't Nathan argue? Wouldn't anyone who'd been thrown into a pit by his only companions yell his head off, giving any and all details of his life, anything to prove he was who he said he was?

And clearly he wasn't in on it with Goodwin, because there was no indication of that when Goodwin freed him. Before, you know, snapping his neck.


§ ita § - Nov 17, 2005 6:58:54 am PST #279 of 5968
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Or are you talking after that point?

After that point, I meant. They're all crazy creepy magical and stuff, and that looks like a huge failure on their part.

Amy, I'm with you on the misdirects. Some explanation of why he had to pee for hours might have been a start.


Amy - Nov 17, 2005 7:00:41 am PST #280 of 5968
Because books.

Some explanation of why he had to pee for hours might have been a start.

Exactly. Although, if he truly did...well, poor guy.


Frankenbuddha - Nov 17, 2005 7:06:17 am PST #281 of 5968
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Some explanation of why he had to pee for hours might have been a start.

Yeah, an off-hand remark from Goodwin about how Nathan had found a stash of food or something that he was keeping to himself would have gone a long way towards explaining his behavior.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 17, 2005 7:08:11 am PST #282 of 5968
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Then again, maybe I DON'T want to know what he was off doing for two hours by himself. Ewww.

Yeah, based on his defensiveness I though he might have headed off to engage in a bathroom activity that he'd have been more embarrassed to have an audience for.