These are stone killers, little man. They ain't cuddly like me.

Jayne ,'The Train Job'


Natter 40: The Nice One  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Connie Neil - Nov 11, 2005 8:39:33 am PST #3064 of 10006
brillig

Oh, lovely, my pharmacy was robbed last night for Oxycontin. Guy had a gun. Don't shoot my pharmacists, dammit!


§ ita § - Nov 11, 2005 8:53:51 am PST #3065 of 10006
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

he didn't realize that "honey" has long been used as a patronizing term for women

Wow, that sounds like quality discourse.

I have to say, I'm suddenly getting a crash course in macro-projects, and they way they lumber but can still change direction with blinding speed. Some weeks my status reports are completely unrecognisable from the weeks before -- but at least I'm picking up the phone more often and calling strangers to ask them what they mean.

Two big payoffs -- you get tone, and there's no paper trail.

Off to find that business continuity document. Page 31 is a real keeper.


tommyrot - Nov 11, 2005 8:53:53 am PST #3066 of 10006
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Anyone a subscriber to Esquire or a member of Esquire Premium? There's an article I want to read but can't: [link]


Miracleman - Nov 11, 2005 9:01:48 am PST #3067 of 10006
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

I'm not in fanfic circles, either, but I do see a lot of that same sort of response whenever any women found a "women-oriented" theater. There's a lot of mocking and rolling-of-eyes, and demands for inclusion, because if excluding women is wrong, so is excluding men.

Huh. Yeah, I can see that.

Not the "if excluding women is wrong, so is excluding men" part. I mean that the phenomenon exists.

When I was briefly in fanfic I happened to stumble into a primarily male group. Now these were good writers...and we would have LOVED it if a woman had decided to write in our little corner. But in perusing other groups I saw a lot of "womens don't get how *we* do our superheroes" and then the same guys would say, in regard to primarily women-attended fanfic groups "YOU GUYS ARE WAY ELITIST YOU ELITIST BEE-YOTCHES YOU! Also, why do you guys always think Batman is boning Clark?"

And, even among the group I was part of there was a fair amount of "We'd love it if a woman, or women, would write with us. On the other hand...I don't understand their fic in other groups."

I, personally, have found that a large portion of the fic I've read in primarily women fic-groups is not to my taste. Not that it's bad...it's just, I dunno..."Not how *I* see [character X]". But I didn't think about that being a gender issue until just now, actually. I just thought I had a narrow vision of [character X] that I was comfortable with because, well...I'm right, the universe is wrong, yadda yadda.

Anyway. My 2/100th of a buck.


Miracleman - Nov 11, 2005 9:14:08 am PST #3068 of 10006
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Okay, killed the thread. Backing away slowly....


Aims - Nov 11, 2005 9:16:12 am PST #3069 of 10006
Shit's all sorts of different now.

And you wonder why we don't have any friends.


Miracleman - Nov 11, 2005 9:17:47 am PST #3070 of 10006
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

I assumed it was because of the constant experimenting on them to further my plan for world domination. I guess I was wrong.


Aims - Nov 11, 2005 9:19:15 am PST #3071 of 10006
Shit's all sorts of different now.

No, it's the inability to not run your mouth.

*smooch*


Allyson - Nov 11, 2005 9:20:15 am PST #3072 of 10006
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I found all those recording devices in my lamps the time you were over. You can't come again until the electro-magnetic shield is installed.


Aims - Nov 11, 2005 9:21:07 am PST #3073 of 10006
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Sorry, Allyson. That was my fault. I forgot to pat him down before we came over. (Did you find the one in your mascara?)