I'd probably push for calling it our midwinter celebration
This is wrong. And possibly sinful. Definitely boycottable.
It's an early winter celebration, darn it.
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Topic!Cindy - Dec 07, 2005 11:12:37 am PST #8404 of 10003
What is even happening?
Emily - Dec 07, 2005 11:13:21 am PST #8405 of 10003
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola
the white lights (symbolizing Christ's purity) and the star/angel on top that symbolizes those two Christmas story elements. The presents really do live in my mind as representative of the gifts of the Magi
Whoa. I may have heard those things at some point, but I've long since forgotten them. Sure, that'd complicate the secularization somewhat (do colored lights represent anything?).
Typo Boy - Dec 07, 2005 11:14:58 am PST #8406 of 10003
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
A guy may be going to jail for not completing his drug rehab program. It was run by a Pentacostal group, and the requirement was that he give up Catholicism (which the Pentacostals labeled witchcraft) and become a Pentacostal. ACLU is suing and I presume they will win. [link]
Jen - Dec 07, 2005 11:16:04 am PST #8407 of 10003
love's a dream you enter though I shake and shake and shake you
Or rather, I don't understand how someone can be part of a faith culturally but not religiously.
Aren't all secular Jews an example?
beth b - Dec 07, 2005 11:16:25 am PST #8408 of 10003
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!
The idea of the holiday is so wedded in my mind with the religious significance that I can't see myself having a purely secular celebration
Because of the years without church - it isn't for me. DH may have had more problems with it but 1) he likes giving me gifts and 2) he likes giving 3) and all the trimmings - are mine and for me, and he can chose or not chose to get invovled in most of it.
Steph L. - Dec 07, 2005 11:18:11 am PST #8409 of 10003
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Aren't all secular Jews an example?
I admit, I don't know much about Judaism, whether Orthodox or secular. So I didn't want to create an even bigger muddle by trying to compare it to Judaism.
Fred Pete - Dec 07, 2005 11:18:57 am PST #8410 of 10003
Ann, that's a ferret.
TB, I tend to think you're right because the judge ordered that specific rehab program.
Trudy Booth - Dec 07, 2005 11:19:55 am PST #8411 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Aren't all secular Jews an example?
But Judaism is sorta an ethnicity as well as a religion.
Jen - Dec 07, 2005 11:21:04 am PST #8412 of 10003
love's a dream you enter though I shake and shake and shake you
Good point, Trudy. I was conflating ethnicity and culture in my mind.
§ ita § - Dec 07, 2005 11:21:27 am PST #8413 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Aren't all secular Jews an example?
If Judaism is something that can be conferred on someone by birth only then I don't think it's the same.