Or rather, I don't understand how someone can be part of a faith culturally but not religiously.
Aren't all secular Jews an example?
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Jen - Dec 07, 2005 11:16:04 am PST #8407 of 10003
love's a dream you enter though I shake and shake and shake you
beth b - Dec 07, 2005 11:16:25 am PST #8408 of 10003
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!
The idea of the holiday is so wedded in my mind with the religious significance that I can't see myself having a purely secular celebration
Because of the years without church - it isn't for me. DH may have had more problems with it but 1) he likes giving me gifts and 2) he likes giving 3) and all the trimmings - are mine and for me, and he can chose or not chose to get invovled in most of it.
Steph L. - Dec 07, 2005 11:18:11 am PST #8409 of 10003
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Aren't all secular Jews an example?
I admit, I don't know much about Judaism, whether Orthodox or secular. So I didn't want to create an even bigger muddle by trying to compare it to Judaism.
Fred Pete - Dec 07, 2005 11:18:57 am PST #8410 of 10003
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TB, I tend to think you're right because the judge ordered that specific rehab program.
Trudy Booth - Dec 07, 2005 11:19:55 am PST #8411 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Aren't all secular Jews an example?
But Judaism is sorta an ethnicity as well as a religion.
Jen - Dec 07, 2005 11:21:04 am PST #8412 of 10003
love's a dream you enter though I shake and shake and shake you
Good point, Trudy. I was conflating ethnicity and culture in my mind.
§ ita § - Dec 07, 2005 11:21:27 am PST #8413 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Aren't all secular Jews an example?
If Judaism is something that can be conferred on someone by birth only then I don't think it's the same.
beth b - Dec 07, 2005 11:22:55 am PST #8414 of 10003
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!
I claim my ethingc background - or cultural background, more accurately, is WASP. Living in fremont,ca - where that is not a majority - might make it clear why I ID as I do.
but now, I have to go to work. stooopid protestant work ethic.
Emily - Dec 07, 2005 11:27:47 am PST #8415 of 10003
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola
The WAS part is ethnic. It's just the P that's not.
erikaj - Dec 07, 2005 11:29:10 am PST #8416 of 10003
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