Everybody plays each other. That's all anybody ever does. We play parts.

Saffron ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


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Stephanie - Oct 15, 2005 4:59:42 am PDT #745 of 5730
Trust my rage

Intersting point. I was thinking at first you meant Oz's band, but I'm guessing you are refering to the people we saw performing at the Bronze, etc. I think in Buffy, the band was always singing and then the camera shifted to our characters.

In VM this week, one guy sang karaoke, looked at some girl (not sure who she was), then another guy got up, sang really well, and the first guy looked pissed that his girl was more impressed with the second singer than with him. It was just long enough to make me think "who are these people? Did I miss something? Is this a new development in the story?" I would have liked the scene *much* better if they had left out guy #1 and his girlfriend and just had the singer singing "Love Hurts."


DXMachina - Oct 15, 2005 5:07:54 am PDT #746 of 5730
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

To me it feels like they're cutting out plot and replacing it with a commercial for an artist. Unless it turns out that one of the barristas can read people's emotions while they're singing. Then it might be okay.


Polter-Cow - Oct 15, 2005 5:20:42 am PDT #747 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Did I miss something? Is this a new development in the story?" I would have liked the scene *much* better if they had left out guy #1 and his girlfriend and just had the singer singing "Love Hurts."

The whole karaoke sequence was an allusion to the Duncan/Veronica/Logan triangle. The first guy with his happy romanticism represented Duncan, and then Courtney comes in with the angsty Logan side of LoVe love.


Stephanie - Oct 15, 2005 5:23:59 am PDT #748 of 5730
Trust my rage

That makes a bit more sense. It still just seemed odd to me, although I only waste this much thought on shows I really like.


DXMachina - Oct 15, 2005 5:29:26 am PDT #749 of 5730
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

That makes a bit more sense.

Not to me. That would be even worse than just putting it in there to plug tha artist.


Polter-Cow - Oct 15, 2005 5:37:42 am PDT #750 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

But DX, they're not really "plugging" the artist. I mean, they don't even identify who he is. This isn't "Cibo Matto? I love Cibo Matto? Let's all go see Cibo Matto!"


Topic!Cindy - Oct 15, 2005 5:40:39 am PDT #751 of 5730
What is even happening?

Cibo Matto clog dances?


Theodosia - Oct 15, 2005 5:42:59 am PDT #752 of 5730
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

If they'd had a couple of short lines to make them tertiary characters -- sort of like the Kevin Smith role last week, but only lighter -- it would have felt more integrated to me. Instead, we had a guy who seemed to be wasting his vocal abilities doing karaoke. I'd rather a semi-drunk Logan got up and warbled at us, if we are going to commit karaoke.


Polter-Cow - Oct 15, 2005 5:47:59 am PDT #753 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

If they'd had a couple of short lines to make them tertiary characters

The first guy, Lars, was actually someone we saw back in "Like a Virgin."

I actually really liked the karaoke scene and its thematic resonance, but we stayed far too long on Courtney singing (though I liked the reaction shot of the happy couple). If they'd shaved that off just a wee bit, it would have been great.


Nicklas - Oct 15, 2005 5:48:33 am PDT #754 of 5730
"Either it's murder, or this library has a very strict overdue policy."

At least the Cibo Matto-thing meant something to the characters there and then, and that justified it. The kareoke cameos? They bring nothing to the show besides making me feel like I'm still watching the commercials.