And the thing is, I like my evil like I like my men: evil. You know, straight up, black hat, tied to the train tracks, soon my electro-ray will destroy metropolis BAD.

Buffy ,'Sleeper'


Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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Stephanie - Oct 15, 2005 5:23:59 am PDT #748 of 5730
Trust my rage

That makes a bit more sense. It still just seemed odd to me, although I only waste this much thought on shows I really like.


DXMachina - Oct 15, 2005 5:29:26 am PDT #749 of 5730
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

That makes a bit more sense.

Not to me. That would be even worse than just putting it in there to plug tha artist.


Polter-Cow - Oct 15, 2005 5:37:42 am PDT #750 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

But DX, they're not really "plugging" the artist. I mean, they don't even identify who he is. This isn't "Cibo Matto? I love Cibo Matto? Let's all go see Cibo Matto!"


Topic!Cindy - Oct 15, 2005 5:40:39 am PDT #751 of 5730
What is even happening?

Cibo Matto clog dances?


Theodosia - Oct 15, 2005 5:42:59 am PDT #752 of 5730
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

If they'd had a couple of short lines to make them tertiary characters -- sort of like the Kevin Smith role last week, but only lighter -- it would have felt more integrated to me. Instead, we had a guy who seemed to be wasting his vocal abilities doing karaoke. I'd rather a semi-drunk Logan got up and warbled at us, if we are going to commit karaoke.


Polter-Cow - Oct 15, 2005 5:47:59 am PDT #753 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

If they'd had a couple of short lines to make them tertiary characters

The first guy, Lars, was actually someone we saw back in "Like a Virgin."

I actually really liked the karaoke scene and its thematic resonance, but we stayed far too long on Courtney singing (though I liked the reaction shot of the happy couple). If they'd shaved that off just a wee bit, it would have been great.


Nicklas - Oct 15, 2005 5:48:33 am PDT #754 of 5730
"Either it's murder, or this library has a very strict overdue policy."

At least the Cibo Matto-thing meant something to the characters there and then, and that justified it. The kareoke cameos? They bring nothing to the show besides making me feel like I'm still watching the commercials.


Steph L. - Oct 15, 2005 5:59:59 am PDT #755 of 5730
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I hated the karaoke in S1 -- it seemed gratuitous and watch-from-the-hall-ish, AND it was the moment I almost stopped watching, b/c how much more of a Mary Sue could Veronica be? (I kept watching, obviously, and her Mary Sue-ishness lessened over the rest of the season.)

So the idea of more karaoke this season is really annoying to me.


DXMachina - Oct 15, 2005 6:26:01 am PDT #756 of 5730
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

But DX, they're not really "plugging" the artist.

Sure they are. The cameos are set up to make you wonder "who is that guy?" in a meta way. The cameos do nothing to advance either plot or characterization. In fact, they work against both because when you do start to wonder who the guy is in his day job, it takes you right out of the story.

Or, what everyone else said.


bon bon - Oct 15, 2005 7:26:16 am PDT #757 of 5730
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

The cameos are set up to make you wonder "who is that guy?" in a meta way. The cameos do nothing to advance either plot or characterization. In fact, they work against both because when you do start to wonder who the guy is in his day job, it takes you right out of the story

Yeah, exactly. Bands would of course play at the Bronze, and it's not unlikely that the characters would go out to see Cibo Matto play there. But C T-T would not have been singing karaoke in Neptune, and there is something irritating about implying meaning for his appearance without spelling it out until you go online. If it's a little more in the background-- where someone who is singing karaoke during a scene would normally be-- that's acceptable, because it's not interrupting the flow of the story.