I like the episode, even the L/V melodrama, but I feel like the characters are not driving the show at all, and that used to be one of my favorite things about it.

I did not like the plot device with Veronica wanting Weevil to crush Madison's car. I'm glad they had her relent, but it didn't work for me, whereas her stalking Madison totally worked for me.

I do think Logan needs a boot in the ass with all the moping. Is this emotional maturation? Are the only two categories of responses either the stuff of smashing her headlights with a tire iron, or staying in his room, pouting, for days on end?

Are the only two categories of responses either the stuff of smashing her headlights with a tire iron, or staying in his room, pouting, for days on end?

I think one of the comments he made to Veronica's voicemail about him being surprised that someone still thought he had good in him(can't remember exactly what he said right now because i was too busy last night being angry with him for being emo!Logan yet again) was extremely telling about what he thinks of himself.

the fact that she does blame Madison more than those two, especially Dick, just speaks volumes to me and what the writers are doing to kill my show.

I think that if Logan had slept with Dick in Aspen, Veronica would have been just as upset and angry.

I think that if Logan had slept with Dick in Aspen, Veronica would have been just as upset and angry.

i'm not talking about blame for the current break-up. i'm talking about blame for her drugging and rape.

I don\'t think she blames Madison more than Dick. Last night, she was more angry about Madison because she slept with Logan.

are we watching the same show? in what way have we been shown this season that Veronica blames Dick at all for what happened to her? he was the most responsible for what happened because he's the one who broght the GHB to the party that subsequently ended up being given to Veronica and he's the one who pressured Beaver to rape her. she doesn't seem to have a problem whatsoever that he's Logan's new roomie.

Madison, on the other hand, didn't even have a clue that she was giving Veronica a drink that was drugged. she just intended to spit in her drink and silently gloat about the fact that she got one over on Veronica Mars.

I don\'t think writing \"SLUT\" on Veronica\'s car is silently gloating, but you make a good point about Dick. Veronica should have been as furious with Logan for having Dick as a roommate as she is about Madison sleeping with him.

Veronica should have been as furious with Logan for having Dick as a roommate as she is about Madison sleeping with him.

Yes, this. She seems way too nonchalant about that and it bugs me. Almost as much as it bugs me that Logan's still living in a hotel. Dude--why didn't his CPA tell him to buy a friggin' condo or something?

Veronica should have been as furious with Logan for having Dick as a roommate as she is about Madison sleeping with him.

I don't agree. Logan and Dick have been friends for a long time, Madison is someone he decided to have an intimate relationship with after he knew how Veronica felt about her.

I don't think writing "SLUT" on Veronica's car is silently gloating

Veronica didn't know for a year and a half that Madison was the one who had written that. i still call silently gloating.

She seems way too nonchalant about that and it bugs me.

i've pretty much learned from M.A.D. that this show is incapable of showing us emotional fallout. when i didn't see any kind of angst from Veronica over her newfound feelings for Logan after the hell he'd put her through i knew i was never going to see anything like it.

I don't agree. Logan and Dick have been friends for a long time, Madison is someone he decided to have an intimate relationship with after he knew how Veronica felt about her.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaand we've come full circle about my complaint. i still don't think the writers should have made it canon that Logan was aware of what Madison had "supposedly" done to Veronica. i say "supposedly" because even though Veronica blames her for drugging her, she had no idea that GHB was in the drink she gave V.