this is Veronica we're talking about. she's not the most sharing individual when it comes to her life or her feelings. i see no reason why she'd offer up that information to him. as for Dick telling him, how would he know Madison was the one responsible for essentially being the one to roofie her? he certainly didn't tell Madison he'd drugged the drink he gave her and Madison didn't believe Veronica when she said that Dick had done it. the car thing might have come up when Logan, Dick and Madison all still hated V, but whatever. the car isn't really my problem.

one thing i did like about this episode was the shoutouts to season one. Mac and Madison sharing a birthday for startes. i'm also fairly sure one of the shirts she was wearing tonight was a s1 shirt.

So glad the previews were misleading yet again.

Also glad Bonnie's preacher father turned out to be a good guy.

Otherwise, meh. The answer to the mystery is revealed by a bookmark? And Veronica doesn't even figure it out, but just blunders into the answer.

While I appreciate the writers trying to remind us that Keith and Veronica aren't unstoppable super sleuths, the screw-ups, real or faked, are getting old. Can we just get back to them actually solving the case?

Also, can we not have every episode end with Veronica learning yet again to stop being so mean to people?

I didn't have any issues while actually watching the episode, but looking back on the experience doesn't leave me very satisfied.

Nice callback to Madison's birthday reminding Veronica to get Mac something, though.

So glad the previews were misleading yet again.

I'm starting to think the "Veronica Mars" promo people and the "Heroes" promo people get drunk together every week, consistently lose their notes, and have to make up a bunch of stuff on the spot.

I'm starting to think the "Veronica Mars" promo people and the "Heroes" promo people get drunk together every week, consistently lose their notes, and have to make up a bunch of stuff on the spot.

t has sudden images of a gravely voice going on about "the face of evil" while Logan is on the screen and shudders.

this is Veronica we're talking about. she's not the most sharing individual when it comes to her life or her feelings. i see no reason why she'd offer up that information to him.

I dunno, between the Duncan and Beaver revelations I think it would have come out at some point to Logan about the roofies.

So glad the previews were misleading yet again.

This is actually starting to piss me off. I only caught up with last week's ep today, so the preview is fresh in my memory. Feh on them, I say.

I dunno, between the Duncan and Beaver revelations I think it would have come out at some point to Logan about the roofies.

I just don't think it would have. YVMV.

I dunno, between the Duncan and Beaver revelations I think it would have come out at some point to Logan about the roofies.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure she told him everything in that conversation in "A Trip To the Dentist". That was after she worked everything out re. the roofie chain and confronted Duncan. After she told him, Logan came clean about his role in it -- the brining of the GBH and doing shots from her body, and most importantly, drugging Duncan so that both V. and Duncan's judgments were impaired when they slept together.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure she told him everything in that conversation in "A Trip To the Dentist". That was after she worked everything out re. the roofie chain and confronted Duncan.

actually, no. she hadn't worked anything out at that point. she didn't find out that Madison was the one responsible for giving her the roofied drink until they went to Logan's and were surprised by everyone being there. that's when Meg told her not to drink the drink Madison had just given her and what Madison liked to do to people she didn't like.

we got to see everything between the two of them in the next scene where Logan confesses his part in it and she never once brings up what she had just learned and i really don't see the two of them rehashing things over the summer/during season two.

someone on lj just brought up a valid point that even if Logan had known that Madison was involved, there was no reason to think that she held Madison any more responsible than she did Duncan or Dick. the fact that she does blame Madison more than those two, especially Dick, just speaks volumes to me and what the writers are doing to kill my show.

actually, no. she hadn't worked anything out at that point.

You're right. The party came after the reveal about Ducan and V and L's conversation. But Veronica did tell Logan about it having been Duncan. And after the party, Logan told Veronica about drugging Duncan and how he was feeling responsible to what happened to her. Even though neither Logan and Veronica are heart-to-heart confession types, I thought they'd talk about it afterward, at least for Veronica to let Logan know how Duncan and V. came to be in the room, and that Logan wasn't the one who drugged her.

Anyway. That part didn't bother me. I'm entirely with you about the not-making-sense of V.'s rage against Madison while she seems to have no problem interacting casually with Dick though.

I rather liked this episode, minus the tiresome Veronica/Logan melodrama. The dialog felt natural, and the interactions between Keith and Veronica and Weevil and Veronica were lovely. I liked the return of the heavy VM voice-overs as well -- very season 1-ish. I didn't like that th roommate turned out to be the culprit though. So, a friend who wanted her to realize her dreams, have a career, and not get mired down in the traditional feminine role of settling down with a baby turned out to be fucked in the head enough to slip Bonnie a drug to make her miscarry? Yikes.