See, Vera? Dress yourself up; you get taken out somewhere fun.

Jayne ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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Topic!Cindy - Jan 26, 2007 4:46:33 am PST #4828 of 5730
What is even happening?

How likely is it, if Logan had been with a hooker, that they'd reveal it in a promo soundbite? That's not a rhetorical question. The ways of the promo monkeys confound me.


sumi - Jan 26, 2007 4:48:23 am PST #4829 of 5730
Art Crawl!!!

Wasn't he with a hooker in this last episode? Or was she just an Aaron Echolls fangirl?

I did think that whatever Veronica was so upset about wasn't the hooker because of the promo.


Topic!Cindy - Jan 26, 2007 4:54:20 am PST #4830 of 5730
What is even happening?

Wasn't he with a hooker in this last episode? Or was she just an Aaron Echolls fangirl?

I think, canon-wise, we just know she was one of the women they met on the beach. We're trying to figure out if she was only a fangirl or (also) a hooker, because of the 'a hooker?!?' in the promo.

The promo made me think she was a hooker, at first, but now I don't know, because I'm not sure if they'd give that away.


Frankenbuddha - Jan 26, 2007 5:11:37 am PST #4831 of 5730
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Great, now I'm trying to parse the rest of VM into the MTM show (which totally doesn't work if Mac is MTM, but hey...)

Keith = Lou Grant
Wallace = Murray
Dick = Ted in a BIG way
Mac's roomate (who's name I'm memfaulting) = Phyllis Lindstrom
Lamb = Sue Ann Nivens

However, Logan and Piz don't really map to that template.


Topic!Cindy - Jan 26, 2007 5:22:13 am PST #4832 of 5730
What is even happening?

However, Logan and Piz don't really map to that template.
Two ripples in Rhoda's stream of failed dates.

If we map Veronica to Mary and Mac to Rhoda (which montage aside, might work better), I think Madison Sinclair could be Sue Ann Nivens, as could Lilly Kane, and that both Dick and Lamb can map to Ted.

Now Logan and Piz are two ripples in Mary's stream of failed relationships.


tiggy - Jan 26, 2007 5:34:42 am PST #4833 of 5730
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

The promo made me think she was a hooker, at first, but now I don't know, because I'm not sure if they'd give that away.

it really seems like the only logical conclusion because we know based on Dick's comments that Logan had spent the previous 6 weeks moping around. the only thing that happened with another girl in that 6 weeks is what we saw in that car.


Frankenbuddha - Jan 26, 2007 5:43:33 am PST #4834 of 5730
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Madison Sinclair could be Sue Ann Nivens, as could Lilly Kane

Given the antagonistic relationship between Mary and Sue Ann, I disagree vociferously that Lilly would parse to Sue Ann. Plus, given Sue Ann's attempts to seduce Lou, ewwww (cause that either means Lilly tried to seduce Keith or Aaron was Lou, which he was most certainly NOT).

Maybe Lilly = Chuckles the clown?


Topic!Cindy - Jan 26, 2007 6:01:10 am PST #4835 of 5730
What is even happening?

Has anyone watched the Director's cut (preview, cold open -- the thing on the CW website and Veoh), yet?

Are we allowed to discuss those in white font, here?


Topic!Cindy - Jan 26, 2007 6:29:10 am PST #4836 of 5730
What is even happening?

Given the antagonistic relationship between Mary and Sue Ann, I disagree vociferously that Lilly would parse to Sue Ann.
You're right, as far as mapping the relationships goes. I was thinking more just on character traits. Lilly happened to like Veronica, so she was good to her. I don't think Lilly was particularly nice.

If Keith had somehow tickled Lilly's fancy, I doubt she would have let the fact that he's Veronica's father stop her for a second.


sumi - Jan 30, 2007 4:18:41 pm PST #4837 of 5730
Art Crawl!!!

Who is the guy playing the CEO of Cheat, Inc? He looks so familiar.