I just keep trying to come up with scenarios where the monkey is the Dean's murderer.

I felt Keith was totally off his game in that entire scene. It nearly had me watching from the hall. I like the fanwank I'm reading, about Keith being clunky on purpose. I shall take it to my bosom.

I just think that Keith is too savvy to be that obvious. I have a hard time believing that he didn't at least google Landry, which would have turned up Landry's book on profiling, which would have given Keith an idea that Landry would be more on the ball than the usual perp.

Seriously, am I the only one who thinks that Keith totally played Landry?

I got the impression that Keith had some kind of realization after he'd met Landry, since he took the case at that time. So I don't think he was intentionally clumsy in the bar, knowing how it would play out; I think he took the case when he realized that Landry would be a challenging target.

Seriously, am I the only one who thinks that Keith totally played Landry?

No, I totally think he got something off of Landry that Landry didn't realize he'd given Keith. Possibly the way that Landry called him on his "act" was some sort of tell to Keith.

I got the impression that Keith had some kind of realization after he'd met Landry, since he took the case at that time. So I don't think he was intentionally clumsy in the bar, knowing how it would play out

See, I thought that Keith was intentionally clunky and obvious in the bar, to give Landry the impression that he (Keith) wouldn't be an investigative threat.

Oh, and I forgot..."Ed Argent" cracked me up. I wonder if they tried to get Ted Nugent, or if he's just to crazy to bother with.

According to the podcast, they did try. Heh.

Ack, I lost an "o" in my "to crazy." I hate when that happens. Dumb fingers.

See, I thought that Keith was intentionally clunky and obvious in the bar, to give Landry the impression that he (Keith) wouldn't be an investigative threat.

If that was the intent, it slipped by me when I watched, but I'm totally embracing it now, because I was embarrassed on Keith's behalf. I may have said things like, "Oh Keith, Veronica Mars is smarter than even you."

I think it would be out of character for Veronica to care about the integrity of the lab. Veronica has been consistently portrayed as an animal lover, and she's a marshmallow, in general.

Loved this ep, but really, it was hard to not keep thinking about the fact that PETA named Kristen Bell "World's Sexiest Vegetarian" last year. One imagines hilarity ensued on the set. Which cost extra.

See, I thought that Keith was intentionally clunky and obvious in the bar, to give Landry the impression that he (Keith) wouldn't be an investigative threat.

Or in any case was just sizing him up -- he hadn't taken the case yet, after all. I'm pretty sure Keith wasn't trying to be sneaky. He just wanted to see which way Landry would jump.

Loved this ep, but really, it was hard to not keep thinking about the fact that PETA named Kristen Bell "World's Sexiest Vegetarian" last year. One imagines hilarity ensued on the set. Which cost extra.

Which may explain why PHAT came off a lot less of a shrill parody than the "Take back the night" crew. The fact that there was no x-over between the two groups was a pretty large contrivance to swallow, but of course Veronica would have been busted immediately if there was.

Or in any case was just sizing him up -- he hadn't taken the case yet, after all. I'm pretty sure Keith wasn't trying to be sneaky. He just wanted to see which way Landry would jump.

This is exactly what I was trying to say earlier, but is said by victor much better.

Which may explain why PHAT came off a lot less of a shrill parody than the "Take back the night" crew. The fact that there was no x-over between the two groups was a pretty large contrivance to swallow

Er, really? I don't see why "Take Back the Night" and PHAT would be required to have any crossover at all. What do sexual assault and animal rights have to do with each other?