I'm not sure that she's learned to be more trusting and forgiving, just that even when people you love do things that disgust you, they can still be the people who have your back. Doesn't have to be one or the other.
Lorne: Snakes? Uh-huh. And they came out of your what? Okay. Okay, well, did they get up there themselves or is this part of a, you know, a thing? No, I'm not judging...Do we fight snakes? Angel: Only if they're giant. Or demons. Or giant demons. Are they giant demon snakes? Lorne: Well, unless this guy's 30 feet tall, I'm thinking they're of the garden variety.
'Lineage'
Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.
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Daisy Jane - Nov 15, 2006 5:35:37 am PST #4271 of 5730
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
Steph L. - Nov 15, 2006 5:40:29 am PST #4272 of 5730
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Oh, shit. Now I think it's Piz.
Why? (I'm just curious, since you posted it like it was an epiphany.)
Topic!Cindy - Nov 15, 2006 5:49:38 am PST #4273 of 5730
What is even happening?
I noticed. I was hoping Keith would stop by and smother him.
Whee! He'll need glasses, for the full effect.
I'm not sure that she's learned to be more trusting and forgiving, just that even when people you love do things that disgust you, they can still be the people who have your back. Doesn't have to be one or the other.Yes. And I think what she needs to learn (whether she learned it or not is another thing, because a big characteristic of noir is the fatal flaw) is that even the people who love you can let you down, and when they do, you don't have to shit all over them.
I think her reaction to Keith's affair was over the top. I don't think her judgment (that it is wrong) was, and I'm not speaking from my own morality here (although that, too) but the morality we've seen on display in this 'verse. Similarly, I think her treatment of Logan (blackmailing him) was terrible, but I don't think her suspicion/lack of trust was terrible in this instance. If my husband (or, back when I had boyfriends, if a boyfriend) needed me to know his friend couldn't be guilty of a crime because they were together, but couldn't tell me where they were, it would hurt/offend/upset/something me, that he couldn't/wouldn't tell me where he'd been, and I'm not someone who keeps a tight leash.
Steph L. - Nov 15, 2006 5:55:43 am PST #4274 of 5730
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Are we supposed to believe someone put the hair in her pasta on purpose? What was the plan if she didn't conveniently leave her drink on the table?
Actually, it makes sense this way: if the attack on Veronica was in retaliation for her outing Claire's lies, and/or in some way orchestrated by Nish to make good on her threat, it's plausible (to me) that Nish could have either (1) been friends with Food Court Worker and asked her to put a hair in Veronica's food, or even (2) if she didn't know Food Court Worker, she could have gambled on the assumption that people wouldn't know yet that she was fired as editor of the paper, and she could have told Food Court Worker that she was doing a story on health department food-cleanliness issues, blah blah blah, and needed help to create a scenario.
#1 is easier to believe, but #2 isn't outside the realm of (my) plausibility.
Polter-Cow - Nov 15, 2006 6:02:16 am PST #4275 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
if the attack on Veronica was in retaliation for her outing Claire's lies, and/or in some way orchestrated by Nish to make good on her threat
Note: it could be orchestrated by Nish, but the person in the garage was not Nish. The skin was white.
tiggy - Nov 15, 2006 6:03:19 am PST #4276 of 5730
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
The skin was white.
could've been Claire.
Steph L. - Nov 15, 2006 6:06:42 am PST #4277 of 5730
I look more rad than Lutheranism
if the attack on Veronica was in retaliation for her outing Claire's lies, and/or in some way orchestrated by Nish to make good on her threat
Note: it could be orchestrated by Nish, but the person in the garage was not Nish. The skin was white.
I just meant the not-angel-hair-hair-in-her-angel-hair. Nish could have orchestrated *that.* (Though it wouldn't guarantee that Veronica would leave her drink on the table, but you get my point.)
I never meant that the hair-shaver-in-the-garage was Nish. It could easily have been someone working with Nish.
DXMachina - Nov 15, 2006 6:15:35 am PST #4278 of 5730
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
If the hair in the food was planned, it was bad planning, because there's no guarantee that a) Veronica would even notice it, and b) that if she did, she wouldn't just pick it out.
bon bon - Nov 15, 2006 6:21:30 am PST #4279 of 5730
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
I doubt we'll ever find out any more information about the fortuitous spiking of her drink. Even if Veronica was that trusting -- though she's made like two dozen enemies in the space of a semester -- it seems unlikely anyone could spike a drink in a crowded caf without being noticed.
Hil R. - Nov 15, 2006 6:23:51 am PST #4280 of 5730
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
Yeah. I thought it was weird that Veronica would just leave her drink sitting on the table like that. I'd never do that, and I think I've got far less reason to be paranoid than Veronica does. (Mostly, I think I'd be concerned about someone seeing a paper cup at an empty table and just throwing out the soda and taking the table.)