I've been catching up here before I even see the episodes (yeah, big surprise there). But given the reactions here, I expected a lot more bitchiness from Veronica in the Halloween episode. I haven't gotten to Keith and Harmony's relationship so I'm not completely sure of how I'll react to Veronica's reaction to it. But so far, nothing about her behavior has seemed that far out of whack to me.

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Note: it could be orchestrated by Nish, but the person in the garage was not Nish. The skin was white.

I thought so too, but did we see enough skin to be sure? I just saw a second of the underside of a wrist, which is not the most pigment heavy part of anyone.

The hair-taker had on white-ish gloves (which could tie into Teppy's theory about a food service worker planting the hair, because they looked like opaque latex gloves).

Regardless...

I never meant that the hair-shaver-in-the-garage was Nish. It could easily have been someone working with Nish.

This is what I meant, too. And I also sort of meant Nish as shorthand for Claire/Whoever Else is in on any potential fakery, or feeling vengeful. I didn't mean Nish, herself, had to carry out the entire act, by herself.

If the hair in the food was planned, it was bad planning, because there's no guarantee that a) Veronica would even notice it, and b) that if she did, she wouldn't just pick it out.

True. I still think it's possible that the drugger just saw an opening to drug V, rather than set up the scenario with the hair in the food, because, as you say, who's to say she'd even notice the hair in the food?

That said, remembering the hair-taker was wearing a glove (that could have been a food-service glove) is making me doubt that, more and more.

I *think* there was a shaved-head woman sitting behind Veronica in the food court, after Veronica came back from replacing her meal. I think she was black. I have to go back and see. My kittens say she (or one of the other people at her table) actually dropped the drug in the drink.

Do you all think Veronica's head was partially shaved, or is it possible her hair was pulled out? Her scalp looked a little bloody in a couple of spots.

Oh, shit. Now I think it's Piz.

Why? (I'm just curious, since you posted it like it was an epiphany.)

I've changed my mind seventeen times since I wrote that, and right now, I'm fully back in IT'S-GOT-TO-BE-MOE mode, but I think I can list my reasons for suspecting Piz (when I do suspect him, which I don't, right now). To be clear, I do not think Piz drugged or shaved Veronica. I'm just talking about the rapes, here.

First of all, I had the same reaction (while watching) you did last night, Teppy, except I got over it, because Scott talked me out of it, and because at that time, I was thinking the drugger/hair taker was also the rapist. I don't think so, any longer.

Secondly, did Wallace really fail to mention to Piz that Veronica would be staying in their room? I suppose he could have, because he was in full-on study-freak-out-mode if Piz is telling the truth, but...I don't know. Piz could have returned because he knew Veronica was there. He's certainly tried to get Veronica alone, before.

Thirdly, Piz had not one bit of interest in Parker. Now, Parker is a pretty cute girl, and in most other scenes with Piz this season, he's been generally interested in pretty cute girls (bikini babes in their natural habitat, etc.), but Veronica might as well have told Piz that a park bench was interested in him, for all he cared.

Fourthly, at least one of last year's Hearst rapes did take place when visiting high school seniors were on campus. A visiting high school senior (Troy) was a suspect, back then.

Fifthly, if Mercer was on the air for all/most/some of the rapes, then who wasn't? Piz. That's who.

Sixthly, there was a drugged up girl in Piz's bed. Granted, it was Sully's girlfriend, and she was only drugged up with nighttime cold medicine, but it seems a little bit like visual foreshadowing to me.

Winners of the Who I know it's not award: Veronica, Wallace, Logan, Keith, Vinnie, Cliff, Weevil, Mercer, Mac.

Winner of the Who I doubt it is award: Dick, the Dean (they're not cleared, though)

Winner of the Who I suspect big time award: Moe, Landry

Winner of the Who I suspect medium time, and mostly because of the Ockham's reference, last night award: (continued...)

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( continues...) Chip

Winner of the Cassidy Casablancas Memorial You-Can't-Judge-A-Book-By-It's-Cover award: Piz

Right now, I have to go back and listen to Moe's voice, and the voice of the DJ who was being broadcast in the food court. The DJ's line seemed to telegraph a rapist sort of sensibility ("You're listening to me whether you like it or not, so you might as well enjoy it.")

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What's to say the drink wasn't drugged before she sat down?

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The DJ's line seemed to telegraph a rapist sort of sensibility ("You're listening to me whether you like it or not, so you might as well enjoy it.")

Yes, this! And he specifically addressed that comment to the people in the food court, I remember that much. Because for some reason I thought it was Piz doing the show, and that he knew Veronica would be in the food court, and so he deliberately said that as a shout-out to The Girl He Has A Crush On.

(Of course, that all falls apart on discovering that Piz wasn't the DJ. Dang.)

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What's to say the drink wasn't drugged before she sat down?

Hmmm. That would work, too, assuming that whoever was behind it (c.f., Nish) had a connection to the Food Court Worker.

If so, though, why the hair in the food? Was it a sly message? (Hair in food = you're about to lose some hair, Veronica.)

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Was it a sly message? (Hair in food = you're about to lose some hair, Veronica.)

Hee! I...sort of like that, actually.

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There may have just been hair in the food. It's happened to me before and no one is trying to drug me.

As far as I know.

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Well, yeah, but this is television, and, more specifically, Veronica Mars. Things don't "just" happen.

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There may have just been hair in the food. It's happened to me before and no one is trying to drug me.

Right, but there would be no reason to write and film the hair scene, then. It might ultimately be the case that she was drugged a different way, but both we and Veronica are being led to think that's how it happened.

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