And boys -- let's watch the swearing.

Mayor ,'Chosen'


Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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Daisy Jane - Nov 15, 2006 5:18:09 am PST #4265 of 5730
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

If they want to be together, they can wait a week, let Harmony do the less dishonorable thing and break off with her husband (who left a project at work in order to avoid temptation), first.

That last bit makes me wonder how honest Harmony is being about things between her and her husband. Keith is trusting what she says about her marriage because he wants to.


Topic!Cindy - Nov 15, 2006 5:27:32 am PST #4266 of 5730
What is even happening?

I am convinced Harmony is a femme fatale, setting up Keith for something in the second arc (should we get one, please let us get one).

Did nobody besides tiggy and me notice that Charlie Weber played Glen, though?


Daisy Jane - Nov 15, 2006 5:29:11 am PST #4267 of 5730
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I knew he looked familiar!


Amy - Nov 15, 2006 5:32:14 am PST #4268 of 5730
Because books.

I don't know why I thought that was Piz. Maybe with the background noise I heard the "Fish" in DJ Hellfish as "Piz". Or maybe because the radio shows were referenced so often, and he was in so much of the episode. Oops.

I am convinced Harmony is a femme fatale, setting up Keith for something in the second arc (should we get one, please let us get one).

I thought that, too. I think you may have planted the idea, Cindy, but last night I really felt her declarations of Feelings were way over the top.

Did nobody besides tiggy and me notice that Charlie Weber played Glen, though?

I knew he looked familiar! But the weird wig and the surfer dude attitude threw me.


Vonnie K - Nov 15, 2006 5:33:38 am PST #4269 of 5730
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

I was actually fine with Veronica's disappointment in Keith and distrust in Logan -- the call back to Jake and Lianne was a particularly nice touch -- but I hated that last voice-over about how Veronica has now learned to be more trusting and forgiving, which was worst kind of tell-not-show resolution. I felt like I was watching bloody 7th Heaven, not VM.


DXMachina - Nov 15, 2006 5:33:51 am PST #4270 of 5730
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Did nobody besides tiggy and me notice that Charlie Weber played Glen, though?

I noticed. I was hoping Keith would stop by and smother him.


Daisy Jane - Nov 15, 2006 5:35:37 am PST #4271 of 5730
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I'm not sure that she's learned to be more trusting and forgiving, just that even when people you love do things that disgust you, they can still be the people who have your back. Doesn't have to be one or the other.


Steph L. - Nov 15, 2006 5:40:29 am PST #4272 of 5730
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Oh, shit. Now I think it's Piz.

Why? (I'm just curious, since you posted it like it was an epiphany.)


Topic!Cindy - Nov 15, 2006 5:49:38 am PST #4273 of 5730
What is even happening?

I noticed. I was hoping Keith would stop by and smother him.

Whee! He'll need glasses, for the full effect.

I'm not sure that she's learned to be more trusting and forgiving, just that even when people you love do things that disgust you, they can still be the people who have your back. Doesn't have to be one or the other.
Yes. And I think what she needs to learn (whether she learned it or not is another thing, because a big characteristic of noir is the fatal flaw) is that even the people who love you can let you down, and when they do, you don't have to shit all over them.

I think her reaction to Keith's affair was over the top. I don't think her judgment (that it is wrong) was, and I'm not speaking from my own morality here (although that, too) but the morality we've seen on display in this 'verse. Similarly, I think her treatment of Logan (blackmailing him) was terrible, but I don't think her suspicion/lack of trust was terrible in this instance. If my husband (or, back when I had boyfriends, if a boyfriend) needed me to know his friend couldn't be guilty of a crime because they were together, but couldn't tell me where they were, it would hurt/offend/upset/something me, that he couldn't/wouldn't tell me where he'd been, and I'm not someone who keeps a tight leash.


Steph L. - Nov 15, 2006 5:55:43 am PST #4274 of 5730
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Are we supposed to believe someone put the hair in her pasta on purpose? What was the plan if she didn't conveniently leave her drink on the table?

Actually, it makes sense this way: if the attack on Veronica was in retaliation for her outing Claire's lies, and/or in some way orchestrated by Nish to make good on her threat, it's plausible (to me) that Nish could have either (1) been friends with Food Court Worker and asked her to put a hair in Veronica's food, or even (2) if she didn't know Food Court Worker, she could have gambled on the assumption that people wouldn't know yet that she was fired as editor of the paper, and she could have told Food Court Worker that she was doing a story on health department food-cleanliness issues, blah blah blah, and needed help to create a scenario.

#1 is easier to believe, but #2 isn't outside the realm of (my) plausibility.