Yes, as a group they are terrible and the ONE person that Veronica has spent any time with turns out to be an unethical headlines at any cost creep.
Although my favorite moment was Veronica conceding that the mousetrap costumes were a brilliant idea, I'm really disliking the stereotyped angry feminist thing. I'm hoping there will be twist on it, but I'm also afraid that what we're seeing is all we're getting.
LOVED seeing LSG and 'Rico interacting again, though. She was totally going to hit on Keith if her husband had been cheating.
AmyLiz, my mind never even went where your mind went. You writer types are scary. I thought "Aaron's Kidz" was a pretty clear signal that there are other Echolls spawn out there, from the get-go. Of course although I'm not outright spoiling, I don't avoid the sort of casting news you'll see in TV Guide, and knew the GG!Logan was being brought on as a possible illegitimate brother, so maybe that's why.
I can't imagine
Vanity Fair
risking their cred with actual celebrities and the reading public, by tricking the child of dead, psychotic celebrity, like that. Logan isn't even a star. It was a poor writing choice to use their name in this. They should have made up a clearly Tabloidish name.
That said, I thought the episode was excellent.
The Keith plot was splendidly done. EC and LSG still have nice chemistry. I love that except for Veronica noticing his cologne, Keith's interest in Harmony was conveyed mostly by EC's face. He's such a good guy, and they showed us that, instead of telling.
I don't think Dick is/the frat boys are coming off better than the feminists. They had the bruised hands from their grope room. They're running these parties from which girls leave so drunk (and drugged), that they don't even know who they've been with or where they are. They don't seem to be tempering their parties, even though they know their fellow students are being raped. All they were concerned about was clearing themselves.
Any sort of extreme devotion, be it in service of a religion, relationship, or cause can (and often does) have the capacity to cloud judgment. I would have found it unbelievable if Parker and the BBTN women weren't a little pissed at Veronica for clearing the frat. I think they truly believe the frat is directly involved in the rapes, and can understand their anger that Veronica is clearing them. Truthfully, I don't want any cause to be above reproach in Neptune. If the feminists were being put forth as perfect, then I'd have a problem, because in Neptune, everyone is a little corrupt.
However this serial rape mystery eventually shakes out, I'm pretty sure there will be honorable feminists, and think it's possible there'll be some dishonorable ones; I think there will be some dishonorable frat boys, and think it's possible there will be some honorable ones. There's been so much focus on that frat, since last season when this mystery was teased, that it seems to me we'll see frat culture partially responsible for the rapes, at the very least by contributing to the conditions that are leaving women more vulnerable to rape than under ordinary circumstances. I thought that going in, and Veronica referencing Duke last night to Charleston Chu (HA!) made me think it even more.
As jaded as Logan seems to be, he's got the survival instincts of a cheeseburger. Dude. DOUBT a total stranger once in a while, m'kay?
I love this about him. I remember saying early on he makes Spike look like a strategic thinker. I especially loved it last night, because he's so lonely, and so wants to be loved, yet he's so impulsive, he ends up screwing himself out of it. I think that's where the real foreshadowing was, last night.
I see where he was coming from. He wants some normal family, and that was being handed to him on a platter. Note he was quick to jump to the conclusion that the actual brother sold him out.
I've been thinking lately that the only reason people can lie to us is that we want them to. Once the desire to believe is gone, people are pretty shitty liars.
I knew Not!Logan was a journalist the second he and Logan were out in the ocean.
Yes, on both counts.
Yes, as a group they are terrible and the ONE person that Veronica has spent any time with turns out to be an unethical headlines at any cost creep.
Why is Nish unethical? If any newspaper sent an undercover reporter to uncover what they thought was Big Story A, and instead happened upon Big Story B, would the newspaper not cover it? I felt badly for the (continued...)
( continues...) Sorority House Mother, because she was sympathetic as were her reasons for breaking the rules/law, but I can see any newspaper running the story, regardless. sumi, do you think she was after that story in the first place? I thought they all happened upon it by accident.
AmyLiz, my mind never even went where your mind went. You writer types are scary.
I know, Cindy! Oops. I think it was the Veronica said "And it's definitely not a charity" or whatever, paired with last season's child molesting plot.
It also never occurred to me that there was a Just Shoot Me reunion going on, until I saw it pointed out in P-C's LJ. Enrico Colantoni has really become Keith to me, when I'm watching this show. Weird.
I liked this episode, although I agree with the points about a Vanity Fair journalist, freelance or not, posing as Logan's long-lost half-brother. And where did the "Greek chorus" come from when Veronica was talking to the frat boys. That was a little strange.
If the feminists were being put forth as perfect, then I'd have a problem, because in Neptune, everyone is a little corrupt.
So much this.
I think that she is out to get the Greek system by any means she finds -- so they happened on that story but she was looking for whatever they could get.
Are there many college campuses where the major social and/or alcohol policy infractions happen in the sorority houses? Because that seems - v. odd to me.
I like the fact that this episode really worked thematically. It was all about what you *want* to believe -- the Take Back the Night team that the Greeks were responsible for the rape, Logan that he'd found a brother, Harmony that her husband was cheating (which would mean she'd be free to pursue Keith).
Veronica usually believes the worst about people -- that's pretty much her default setting. In this case, it didn't pan out (yet) with regard to the frat, but it did about Fake!Charlie. We even see it when she and Keith and Logan are having dinner -- she believed every answer Logan would give would be a snarky or disrespectful one, and that every question Keith asked had ulterior motives.
"Logan, I did some more digging. That's not your brother Logan from San Logan Capistrano. It's Logan, a reporter from Logan's Fair."
Veronica usually believes the worst about people -- that's pretty much her default setting. In this case, it didn't pan out (yet) with regard to the frat, but it did about Fake!Charlie. We even see it when she and Keith and Logan are having dinner -- she believed every answer Logan would give would be a snarky or disrespectful one, and that every question Keith asked had ulterior motives.
Oooh, good point.
Hey, I'm forgetting something... Did Veronica ever confirm with the store owner that the guy from the ATM photo with Claire was actually the guy who had been in the store with Claire?
I mean, if not, there's a chance he's not the rapist, just a guy in line behind her. The guy with her could have been next to her, out of the camera's view, and if/since the rapist seems to be a serial rapist, or part of some rape gang or something, it would make sense if he didn't let himself be in view of the camera.
I mean, if not, there's a chance he's not the rapist, just a guy in line behind her. The guy with her could have been next to her, out of the camera's view, and if/since the rapist seems to be a serial rapist, or part of some rape gang or something, it would make sense if he didn't let himself be in view of the camera.
I thought there was a problem with the timeline too. Maybe I misheard, but I thought the girl with Claire said she saw Claire by the convenience store just after she was run out of the party. But Veronica said the time-stamp on the ATM photo was well after the party ended.
Also, did anyone else think "Harmony Chase" was a Buffy reference?
