As jaded as Logan seems to be, he's got the survival instincts of a cheeseburger. Dude. DOUBT a total stranger once in a while, m'kay?

I love LSG.

I need to rewind and see that ATM picture again -- did we get a good look at who was with Parker?

that wasn't Parker. it was Claire. the "blonde in the middle" from the last ep.

this ep left me kind of meh. i love me some Logan angst and there were some great one-liners, but eh. RT really is dropping the ball with the feminists.

I think the Keith stuff was GREAT tonight. And I love the Logan angst. The feminists are bugging the hell out of me and I am pissed that the writers are making Dick look better than them.

Yes, as a group they are terrible and the ONE person that Veronica has spent any time with turns out to be an unethical headlines at any cost creep.

Dude. DOUBT a total stranger once in a while, m'kay?

I see where he was coming from. He wants some normal family, and that was being handed to him on a platter. Note he was quick to jump to the conclusion that the actual brother sold him out.

I've been thinking lately that the only reason people can lie to us is that we want them to. Once the desire to believe is gone, people are pretty shitty liars.

I knew Not!Logan was a journalist the second he and Logan were out in the ocean.

While the National Enquirer might not have a problem with a journalist posing as some celebrity's long lost brother to get an interview, I seriously can't imagine Vanity Fair or that ilk exposing themselves to a lawsuit that way....

While the National Enquirer might not have a problem with a journalist posing as some celebrity's long lost brother to get an interview, I seriously can't imagine Vanity Fair or that ilk exposing themselves to a lawsuit that way....

I so totally can. And remember, most magazine reporters are freelance, so VF might not have found out the details of how he got the story until later.

Yes, as a group they are terrible and the ONE person that Veronica has spent any time with turns out to be an unethical headlines at any cost creep.

Although my favorite moment was Veronica conceding that the mousetrap costumes were a brilliant idea, I'm really disliking the stereotyped angry feminist thing. I'm hoping there will be twist on it, but I'm also afraid that what we're seeing is all we're getting.

LOVED seeing LSG and 'Rico interacting again, though. She was totally going to hit on Keith if her husband had been cheating.

AmyLiz, my mind never even went where your mind went. You writer types are scary. I thought "Aaron's Kidz" was a pretty clear signal that there are other Echolls spawn out there, from the get-go. Of course although I'm not outright spoiling, I don't avoid the sort of casting news you'll see in TV Guide, and knew the GG!Logan was being brought on as a possible illegitimate brother, so maybe that's why.

I can't imagine Vanity Fair risking their cred with actual celebrities and the reading public, by tricking the child of dead, psychotic celebrity, like that. Logan isn't even a star. It was a poor writing choice to use their name in this. They should have made up a clearly Tabloidish name.

That said, I thought the episode was excellent.

The Keith plot was splendidly done. EC and LSG still have nice chemistry. I love that except for Veronica noticing his cologne, Keith's interest in Harmony was conveyed mostly by EC's face. He's such a good guy, and they showed us that, instead of telling.

I don't think Dick is/the frat boys are coming off better than the feminists. They had the bruised hands from their grope room. They're running these parties from which girls leave so drunk (and drugged), that they don't even know who they've been with or where they are. They don't seem to be tempering their parties, even though they know their fellow students are being raped. All they were concerned about was clearing themselves.

Any sort of extreme devotion, be it in service of a religion, relationship, or cause can (and often does) have the capacity to cloud judgment. I would have found it unbelievable if Parker and the BBTN women weren't a little pissed at Veronica for clearing the frat. I think they truly believe the frat is directly involved in the rapes, and can understand their anger that Veronica is clearing them. Truthfully, I don't want any cause to be above reproach in Neptune. If the feminists were being put forth as perfect, then I'd have a problem, because in Neptune, everyone is a little corrupt.

However this serial rape mystery eventually shakes out, I'm pretty sure there will be honorable feminists, and think it's possible there'll be some dishonorable ones; I think there will be some dishonorable frat boys, and think it's possible there will be some honorable ones. There's been so much focus on that frat, since last season when this mystery was teased, that it seems to me we'll see frat culture partially responsible for the rapes, at the very least by contributing to the conditions that are leaving women more vulnerable to rape than under ordinary circumstances. I thought that going in, and Veronica referencing Duke last night to Charleston Chu (HA!) made me think it even more.

As jaded as Logan seems to be, he's got the survival instincts of a cheeseburger. Dude. DOUBT a total stranger once in a while, m'kay?

I love this about him. I remember saying early on he makes Spike look like a strategic thinker. I especially loved it last night, because he's so lonely, and so wants to be loved, yet he's so impulsive, he ends up screwing himself out of it. I think that's where the real foreshadowing was, last night.

I see where he was coming from. He wants some normal family, and that was being handed to him on a platter. Note he was quick to jump to the conclusion that the actual brother sold him out.

I've been thinking lately that the only reason people can lie to us is that we want them to. Once the desire to believe is gone, people are pretty shitty liars.

I knew Not!Logan was a journalist the second he and Logan were out in the ocean.

Yes, as a group they are terrible and the ONE person that Veronica has spent any time with turns out to be an unethical headlines at any cost creep.

Why is Nish unethical? If any newspaper sent an undercover reporter to uncover what they thought was Big Story A, and instead happened upon Big Story B, would the newspaper not cover it? I felt badly for the (continued...)

( continues...) Sorority House Mother, because she was sympathetic as were her reasons for breaking the rules/law, but I can see any newspaper running the story, regardless. sumi, do you think she was after that story in the first place? I thought they all happened upon it by accident.