Saffron: But we've been wed. Aren't we to become one flesh? Mal: Well, no, uh... We're still two fleshes here, and I think that your flesh ought to sleep somewhere else.

'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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Calli - May 16, 2006 10:54:52 am PDT #3246 of 5730
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Righty-o. Thanks, P-C!


Hayden - May 16, 2006 11:00:32 am PDT #3247 of 5730
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Great news!

aka Minearing a series.

I thought that was called The Soprano Gambit.


Cashmere - May 16, 2006 11:03:23 am PDT #3248 of 5730
Now tagless for your comfort.

aka Minearing a series

Bite your tongue!

Do you guys realize how much more bitter I can get if I fall in love with a show that gets cancelled? I'd forsake television forever.

OK, maybe not forever.


Topic!Cindy - May 16, 2006 11:19:50 am PDT #3249 of 5730
What is even happening?

Do you guys realize how much more bitter I can get if I fall in love with a show that gets cancelled? I'd forsake television forever.

Here's the thing. I love VM to death, and am over the moon at the renewal, but I would have understood (in a totally devastated way) if it had been canceled. The ratings hoovered, particularly in the second half of this season.

Now, I was angry when they took it off unexpectedly, because they were afraid the Olympics would crush it, because the ratings (for new eps) had been decent to that point. I was angry though, because usually, that's step one in killing a show, only the networks call it "saving" a show.

Then it moved to Tuesdays, but I think they did that to save it, because so many VM fans are Lost fans, too. So I couldn't be too angry about that, and personally, it works better for me on Tuesdays.

As I understand it, much of the reason the ratings sucked over the last batch of episodes is that the show was pre-empted in major markets like L.A. and NY. But if the show makes a fair go of it, with good promotion and treatment at the start of season three on the new CW, and the ratings still suck...well, I'm trying to prepare myself not to be too bitter. I mean, I think the overnights for the last couple of episodes were just around 1-1.5 million viewers. Them's cancelation numbers, whether there have been pre-emptions and schedule changes, or not. They're AWFULLY lucky with this renewal. They deserve it. It's a great show, but since when has that mattered?


tiggy - May 16, 2006 11:23:03 am PDT #3250 of 5730
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

personally, i'm confident that the numbers will improve. do you know how many markets don't even have UPN affiliates? with this merger the show is going to reach more people. i'm ecstatic beyond belief and trying to figure out how i can rework my pimping to finally suck in those people that have been resisting.


Topic!Cindy - May 16, 2006 11:32:25 am PDT #3251 of 5730
What is even happening?

personally, i'm confident that the numbers will improve. do you know how many markets don't even have UPN affiliates? with this merger the show is going to reach more people.
Yes. This will help.

i'm ecstatic beyond belief and trying to figure out how i can rework my pimping to finally suck in those people that have been resisting.
While restating that I fully agree with you that the show is best experienced in order, from episode 1:01 on, I'm starting my pimping to the less obsessive types today, telling them to jump right in at season 2, and NitW re-runs, tonight.

They might be regretful afterwards, like I was finding Buffy in season 3, but it's not like they won't get it or anything. Maybe you could propose a viewing plan with two options?...like:

Option 1 (for obsessives)

  • Recommend they start taping season 2, tonight, and go rent/buy/borrow S1 DVDs, ASAP.

Option 2 (for normal TV viewers)

  • Recommend they start watching tonight, with 2:01


victor infante - May 16, 2006 6:38:05 pm PDT #3252 of 5730
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Eager (but not as a Beaver) to rewatch VM version 2.0 from the beginning again, and indeed, I very, very much enjoyed "Normal is the Watchword."

Not much in the Evil!Beaver foreshadowing going on, although I notice that while Dick tells people that his dad is springing for a limo, he never says he called or that it was his idea, so wriggle room for Beaver!manipulation. Otherwise, you don't get a lot of him at all.

Also, when the teacher offers to let Dick sit at the front of the bus, he very definitely looks at someone, and declines. That would have been Rhonda, she who was trying to get him to knock her up.

Lastly,no way is Meg three months pregnant in that outfit. But shhhh! It's television!


BartlebyFink - May 18, 2006 7:07:49 pm PDT #3253 of 5730
One Hot Burrito!

For anyone wondering about the return of Dick for the third season, I offer you this tidbit:

The CW press release says that Veronica Mars stars, among others, Ryan Hansen.


Katie M - May 18, 2006 7:55:55 pm PDT #3254 of 5730
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Hey, do we know canonically what Mac's doing next year? (I mean, did we find out in S2; no spoilers, please.)


Vonnie K - May 18, 2006 8:12:42 pm PDT #3255 of 5730
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Didn't Wallace say Mac was going to Hearst in one of the episodes? I mean, if RT could actually sign on Tina Majorino, that would be the natural course of action, so maybe I'm imagining things.