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Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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victor infante - May 09, 2006 5:28:45 pm PDT #3014 of 5730
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

There were hints about Cassidy all over the place. Indeed, he was my first suspect, a long way back, but I couldn't connect him to the bus crash. Then, as more and more info emerged that did connect him to the crash, well, I guess I just didn't want to believe it.


DXMachina - May 09, 2006 5:32:47 pm PDT #3015 of 5730
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I was wondering if there were cameras in the elevators when Aaron "confessed." Did you see them? Or are you guessing?

Educated guess based on the elevator surveillance footage of Cliff and the hooker, and Lamb and Madison. As Aaron said, there don't seem to be that many hotels in Neptune.


Frankenbuddha - May 09, 2006 5:35:09 pm PDT #3016 of 5730
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Indeed, he was my first suspect, a long way back

Do you mean for Lilly's killing? Interesting.

There were definitely hints that he had a nasty streak; it's the times that he was acting easy-going/sweet that don't quite parse for me - the nastiness never seemed that controlled, so I have issues buying the other, even at the level of a sociopath (and would a sociopath care that much about being outed and why didn't he just do something to Woody instead?).


victor infante - May 09, 2006 5:39:08 pm PDT #3017 of 5730
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Do you mean for Lilly's killing? Interesting.

No, for the bus crash. But I discounted it at first, and concentrated on the idea that he didn't care about Kendall at all and had set his dad up to fall.

Which no one here believed. And it turned out to be true. So there. (:


Gris - May 09, 2006 5:42:18 pm PDT #3018 of 5730
Hey. New board.

Huh. Also. If Cassidy planned on getting away with it (and I see no reason to doubt that) why would he have taken all of Mac's clothes and been generally sociopathic at her? Wouldn't it have worked better to... not?


Amy - May 09, 2006 5:43:47 pm PDT #3019 of 5730
Because books.

why would he have taken all of Mac's clothes and been generally sociopathic at her?

Mac's pretty scrappy. I think he wanted to be sue she would at least be stuck in the hotel room while he went off to dispatch Veronica.


Gris - May 09, 2006 5:43:53 pm PDT #3020 of 5730
Hey. New board.

Which no one here believed.

Hey, I may not have said it, but I've believed it ever since he started real estating, at least.

Also, Cassidy has one hell of a scary sneer. For a while, I thought it was mediocre acting. Now, I'm interpreting as deep, underlying psychosis. Which I like better.


Gris - May 09, 2006 5:46:31 pm PDT #3021 of 5730
Hey. New board.

Mac's pretty scrappy. I think he wanted to be sue she would at least be stuck in the hotel room while he went off to dispatch Veronica.

I can see wanting to get her not to come after him, but... isn't taking her clothes psychotic enough that, had he successfully killed Veronica, he'd be under suspicion? A lot of suspicion? If he had just LEFT her there, in the shower, it's not like she would have known to go to the roof, and he could have made up some story about needing to borrow her phone to make an important phone call or something.


Amy - May 09, 2006 5:50:56 pm PDT #3022 of 5730
Because books.

If he had just LEFT her there, in the shower, it's not like she would have known to go to the roof, and he could have made up some story about needing to borrow her phone to make an important phone call or something.

Maybe knowing Veronica knew about the crash broke something in him -- he'd already failed with Mac sexually, so taking her clothes and humiliating her could have been a punishment. If you're feeling like the world might crash in, you lash out. He might have lashed out anyway.


Hayden - May 09, 2006 5:53:51 pm PDT #3023 of 5730
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I gotta say, as much of a sinking feeling as I got when I thought Keith had died, I got even more of one when it turned out he was ok due to plot contrivance. If they'd left him dead, that would have actually been the noirest moment in noirville.

That was a generally excellent episode all around, though. I found myself saying "don't care, don't care" throughout all the Jackie revelations, but for the most part, I have to hand it to Cindy and the rest of y'all who called it: nice going.