Darn your sinister attraction!

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Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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Frankenbuddha - May 03, 2006 4:21:37 am PDT #2718 of 5730
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

He could have been behind the recording sent to Woody – and thus it was his voice that was edited out.

Why would he send that to Woody if he's the one who took out the bus? To scare Woody that a similar fate was waiting for him, perhaps. But it still leads to why did Woody make sure Gia wasn't on the bus, which implies foreknowledge.

Similarly, why would anyone else send that tape to Woody but edit out Cassidy?

And then there's still the question of the damn rat.


Narrator - May 03, 2006 4:25:44 am PDT #2719 of 5730
The evil is this way?

Why would he send that to Woody if he's the one who took out the bus? To scare Woody that a similar fate was waiting for him, perhaps. But it still leads to why did Woody make sure Gia wasn't on the bus, which implies foreknowledge.

If Beaver sent the tape, I think it tends to show that he didn't put the bomb on the bus. Beaver was trying to stop the incorporation.

Similarly, why would anyone else send that tape to Woody but edit out Cassidy?

Apart from Big Dick, no one. And Big Dick would be motivated by a desire not to have HIS son identified as a victim, not out of any concern for Beaver.


Amy - May 03, 2006 4:33:42 am PDT #2720 of 5730
Because books.

Which leads me to my bigger issue -- the topic was irrelevant. Veronica didn’t claim that she was a virgin – in fact she admitted dating at least 2 boys. So, unless unchaste women are inherently unreliable as witnesses, I don’t see why the judge allowed the defense attorney to question Veronica about it. It was a smear on a collateral issue.

This was my problem with it. Also that the judge allowed it. Why? It has no bearing on whether or not Veronica would have propositioned Aaron.

But it still leads to why did Woody make sure Gia wasn't on the bus, which implies foreknowledge.

This is true.

Actually, I'm not sure if I *can* wrap my head around Cassidy being behind the crash. I get that emotionally he wouldn't want to be outed, and the reasons why, but don't most people who aren't born-to-it criminals think smaller? As in, work on the individuals in question personally -- offer money for silence, maybe, and promise that they could have their revenge another way, maybe by killing Woody?

Narrator's interpretation of the tape, with the image of Mac crying on the preview, makes sense, but I still don't completely buy Beav as the culprit.

What I can see is someone like Woody's wife doing it. Likes the power and money, hates that her husband is a twisted sicko, but won't give up the money and power, either, and therefore decides to remove the possible outers from the picture.

Except that Woody's wife isn't a character, so it can't be her. Gia, though...


Frankenbuddha - May 03, 2006 4:45:08 am PDT #2721 of 5730
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Gia, though...

Heh. Well we do only have her word that Woody called her and told her not to be on the bus...


sumi - May 03, 2006 4:54:13 am PDT #2722 of 5730
Art Crawl!!!

So, is the Veronica's doctor in the pay of the Echolls Defense attorney.


Amy - May 03, 2006 5:01:36 am PDT #2723 of 5730
Because books.

So, is the Veronica's doctor in the pay of the Echolls Defense attorney.

Don't know. But we've seen that Aaron is willing to pay for/manipulate "evidence" and clearly has people willing to help him, like Kendall.

I know chlamydia often doesn't have symptoms, and I'm betting the treatment is simply antibiotic, so if her doctor was paid to tell her she has it (and include it in her medical record), giving her the treatment for it (so she would believe she had it), probably wouldn't hurt.

On the other hand, there's so much legitimate evidence to paint Veronica as dishonest and morally suspect, it hardly seems worth it to throw an STD in there.


sumi - May 03, 2006 5:17:43 am PDT #2724 of 5730
Art Crawl!!!

Season two is coming out on DVD on August 15th!


Topic!Cindy - May 03, 2006 5:25:44 am PDT #2725 of 5730
What is even happening?

Why would he send that to Woody if he's the one who took out the bus? To scare Woody that a similar fate was waiting for him, perhaps.
No. To scare Woody off the incorporation deal. That is: Don't go through with the incorporation deal, or I'll out you as a pederast.


Jon B. - May 03, 2006 5:39:04 am PDT #2726 of 5730
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I know chlamydia often doesn't have symptoms, and I'm betting the treatment is simply antibiotic, so if her doctor was paid to tell her she has it (and include it in her medical record), giving her the treatment for it (so she would believe she had it), probably wouldn't hurt.

The same thought occurred to me. What if Veronica never had chlamydia, but the doctor was paid off?

There's all kinds of stuff that happened during the trial that could allow for a retrial if the State appeals.


Frankenbuddha - May 03, 2006 5:52:56 am PDT #2727 of 5730
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

To scare Woody off the incorporation deal. That is: Don't go through with the incorporation deal, or I'll out you as a pederast.

Because of Cassidy's own land deal? That's entering evil overlord territory because either he was already planning the land deal before big Dick went AWOL (and was willing to take out a bus full of kids to keep himself un-outed, but was willing to use the tape that would have outed him), or, after taking out the bus, he kept the tape around in case he needed to use it, and once he started his land dealings that's when he decided to send it to Woody. Not sure I'll be able to buy either of those if that's what RT is selling.