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'Just Rewards (2)'
Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.
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sumi - May 03, 2006 5:17:43 am PDT #2724 of 5730
Art Crawl!!!
Topic!Cindy - May 03, 2006 5:25:44 am PDT #2725 of 5730
What is even happening?
Why would he send that to Woody if he's the one who took out the bus? To scare Woody that a similar fate was waiting for him, perhaps.No. To scare Woody off the incorporation deal. That is: Don't go through with the incorporation deal, or I'll out you as a pederast.
Jon B. - May 03, 2006 5:39:04 am PDT #2726 of 5730
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
I know chlamydia often doesn't have symptoms, and I'm betting the treatment is simply antibiotic, so if her doctor was paid to tell her she has it (and include it in her medical record), giving her the treatment for it (so she would believe she had it), probably wouldn't hurt.
The same thought occurred to me. What if Veronica never had chlamydia, but the doctor was paid off?
There's all kinds of stuff that happened during the trial that could allow for a retrial if the State appeals.
Frankenbuddha - May 03, 2006 5:52:56 am PDT #2727 of 5730
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
To scare Woody off the incorporation deal. That is: Don't go through with the incorporation deal, or I'll out you as a pederast.
Because of Cassidy's own land deal? That's entering evil overlord territory because either he was already planning the land deal before big Dick went AWOL (and was willing to take out a bus full of kids to keep himself un-outed, but was willing to use the tape that would have outed him), or, after taking out the bus, he kept the tape around in case he needed to use it, and once he started his land dealings that's when he decided to send it to Woody. Not sure I'll be able to buy either of those if that's what RT is selling.
Narrator - May 03, 2006 5:53:43 am PDT #2728 of 5730
The evil is this way?
The same thought occurred to me. What if Veronica never had chlamydia, but the doctor was paid off?
I really doubt this. Anyone in the medical provider chain (doctor, nurse, lab technician) or a hacker could have leaked to the defense that Veronica had an STS. But for the doctor to have told her that she had an STS knowing that she did not, and put her on a course of treatment that could have an adverse result (there is always some risk in taking any medication) -- I just don't see that. Plus, how does that work -- someone pays off the doctor in the event that Veronica happens to make an appointment to see him?
There's all kinds of stuff that happened during the trial that could allow for a retrial if the State appeals.
No State appeal. The constitution forbids double jeopardy -- a person acquited of a crime cannot be tried again for that crime by the state.
DXMachina - May 03, 2006 6:00:22 am PDT #2729 of 5730
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
I really doubt this. Anyone in the medical provider chain (doctor, nurse, lab technician) or a hacker could have leaked to the defense that Veronica had an STS.
Or her pharmacist...
tiggy - May 03, 2006 6:03:41 am PDT #2730 of 5730
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
How did you all recognize Hart? I didn't have a clue. I know tiggy said she just watched the episode in question, but she wasn't the only one to recognize him.
honestly? i would have recognized him anyway. these are the things my brain remembers while the important things dribble out of my ears.
Narrator's theory makes sense. i really don't want it to be Beav though.
sumi - May 03, 2006 6:03:49 am PDT #2731 of 5730
Art Crawl!!!
Would the pharmacist be able to tell what the antibiotic is for?
Vonnie K - May 03, 2006 6:04:16 am PDT #2732 of 5730
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.
Meara:
The e-mail that said "kill incorporation or else" and had the recording - that wasn't from Lucky, right? Seemes like it had to be from Beaver.
I think it must be. It must have been sent off after the bus crash. Even if Beaver did engineer the bus crash to keep the story from getting out, deep inside, there must be a lot of rage for Woody--I think he'd have wanted to get back at Woody (after safely erasing himself out of the recording to prevent the back-trail, of course) for all the hell Woody put him through, plus he stood to benefit in a major way financially if the incorporation fell through.
How did you all recognize Hart? I didn't have a clue.
Obsessive rewatching of S1. I think I marathoned S1 at least three times before the summer was over in various pimping efforts.
Why would Beaver put a bomb in the gift basket? Why not just leave it on the bus when he got off?
You're right. I'm still thinking of Woody--> bomb--> gift basket --> Peter chain, which doesn't have to apply if it's Beaver.
I think Veronica/Keith are going to take the recording to Mac to see if she can do some computer-thingy to recover the edited-out portion. I think she does and realizes that it’s Beaver.
This seems extremely likely. Just watching Mac weeping in the preview made my inside hurt. Come to think of it, most of my goodwill toward Beaver this season comes from the fact that he had the good taste to recognize the awesomeness that is Mac.
I get that emotionally he wouldn't want to be outed, and the reasons why, but don't most people who aren't born-to-it criminals think smaller?
Yeah, it's quite a bit of a leap from that to mass-murder, innit? I keep wondering... couldn't Beaver have persuaded Peter and Marco to let him stay in the dark when they outed Woody? Perhaps he did and they did'n't listen to him--and said something to put him over the edge, called him a coward, etc. Even if Cass was responsible for the bus crash, I can't quite think of him as a sociopath. I think he was cornered, irrational, and deeply damaged.
There's all kinds of stuff that happened during the trial that could allow for a retrial if the State appeals.
I don't know much about law, but even if there are new evidences, can Aaron be retried for a crime from which he's been already acquitted? I thought that was a no-no.
Amy - May 03, 2006 6:14:31 am PDT #2733 of 5730
Because books.
I really doubt this. Anyone in the medical provider chain (doctor, nurse, lab technician) or a hacker could have leaked to the defense that Veronica had an STS.
Or her pharmacist...
Most antibiotics have more than one use, though. The pharmacist could know what all those uses are, but extrapolating an STD without any kind of proof would be pushing it.
Also, Narrator makes an excellent point about Veronica just happening to have an appointment with the doctor -- if she didn't show, or never made one, then the false STD thing doesn't work.
I guess I'm wondering if the STD was simply there for shock value -- a way to further humiliate Veronica, who has had to suffer through so much already (Lily's death, her mom's disappearance, her dad's ousting from the position of sheriff, the date rape). If so, it's kind of ... stupid.