Logan and his fugly necklace. Oy. I wonder whether that was inflicted on Jason Dohring by the costume people or it's his own.

It beats the Pimp Chain.

I love what they've done with Logan's arc and characterization, but I agree that I don't want VM to become the Logan Show. I don't whether it's the writing or the acting, but I just find Logan much more interesting than Duncan, squicky incest/am-I-a-killer? issues aside.

I agree. I'd be good with a hell of a lot more Weevil, though. I think I'd even watch a Weevil spin-off.

I loved the puka necklaces when I was a kid.

eta...

I meant to say, I wonder if we weren't a little hard on Keyser Soze. I'd read the post to be commenting on the discussion about woobie-ish-ness, not our nattery ways, until I saw the objections, here.

I'd be good with a hell of a lot more Weevil, though.

Yes, this. Weevil is my favorite character after Logan.

Weevil reminds me of Faith. The actor, I mean - give Francis Capra a wig and some breasts and he's ED in Faith mode.

I meant to say, I wonder if we weren't a little hard on Keyser Soze.

I thought...she?...was happily anticipating some good meaty discussion here, as opposed to the craxy woobie/I luv Logan!!1! stuff elsewhere, too.

I meant to say, I wonder if we weren't a little hard on Keyser Soze

By we, do you mean anyone other than Jim, who's apologised?

It beats the Pimp Chain.

Oh, so true.

Actually, Francis Capra, who plays Weevil, is known for his gold pimp chains and numerous jewelry. Why some guys think this is a good look defeats my understanding, but who am I to say? I know fashion like I know rocket science.

The actor, I mean - give Francis Capra a wig and some breasts and he's ED in Faith mode.

I'm convinced they are separated at birth; as an evidence, I present you: [link]

That's young Francis, not Eliza, by the wy.

By we, do you mean anyone other than Jim, who's apologised?

I never remember who said what unless I go back and check. I missed the apology though, so thanks.

Sorry I missed the apology, Jim.

Eek. I apparently caused people to go off-topic. The irony is not lost on me.

I just meant that as a Logan and V/L fan, we have to deal with a lot of generalizations about who we are and how we supposedly feel about things. It's just been tough to deal with over the last few months and I'm trying to get myself out of that defensive mode.

I also have a sudden craving for muffalettas. Hmm...

I like Weevil. But he's strangely woobie-ish for a guy who rules by terror and was threatening the even more woobieful best friend of Veronica with unspecified horror.