Zoe: What's that, sir? Mal: Freedom, is what. Zoe: No, I meant what's that? Mal: Oh. Yeah. Just step around it. I think something must've been living in here.

'Out Of Gas'


Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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Jon B. - Apr 20, 2006 7:10:04 am PDT #2427 of 5730
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Because the Liam=Angel stuff and the Claddagh ring are all in Buffy - seasons 1-2, you know?

Lots of Irishmen wear Claddagh rings and are named Liam. Why do you think there has to be a Buffy connection?


Hayden - Apr 20, 2006 7:37:40 am PDT #2428 of 5730
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Last year at this time, I had already called Aaron as the murderer. This year, I'm stumped.


Polter-Cow - Apr 20, 2006 7:38:18 am PDT #2429 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

P-C - has Rob Thomas not watched Buffy? Or just not watched Angel? Because the Liam=Angel stuff and the Claddagh ring are all in Buffy - seasons 1-2, you know?

He's not watched anything. Like Jon said, Irish Liams with Claddagh rings just happen.


sumi - Apr 20, 2006 7:44:17 am PDT #2430 of 5730
Art Crawl!!!

I don't, actually. I was just suggesting that if Rob Thomas wanted to do that -- he wouldn't have to see Angel to make the reference.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 20, 2006 7:54:03 am PDT #2431 of 5730
What is even happening?

As I understood it, Rob had not seen BtVS when Joss started raving about VM. He was going to remedy that, but someone (maybe P-C in his lj) just recently mentioned that he didn't think he had.

I enjoyed the parallel, whether or not it was intentional.


Polter-Cow - Apr 20, 2006 9:47:20 am PDT #2432 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

but someone (maybe P-C in his lj) just recently mentioned that he didn't think he had.

It was me...about thirty posts ago.


sumi - Apr 20, 2006 9:53:13 am PDT #2433 of 5730
Art Crawl!!!

See, I thought he meant that he hadn't seen the show --Angel -- therefore my post.


sumi - Apr 20, 2006 9:54:06 am PDT #2434 of 5730
Art Crawl!!!

BTW, I have a friend who had a dog named Liam and then later his grandson: Connor.

She does not watch any Jossverse shows so far as I know.


tiggy - Apr 20, 2006 10:24:29 am PDT #2435 of 5730
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

Cindy, i like your theory that the Oscar is the murder weapon and Lilly snagged it as well as the tapes when she left the Echolls poolhouse. it works for me. because really, how else can they explain her blood being present?


Topic!Cindy - Apr 20, 2006 10:32:26 am PDT #2436 of 5730
What is even happening?

It's the only way I can get Lilly's blood on the Oscar. I'm assuming the murder took place at the Kane house, because...

  • There'd be an awful lot to being a famous movie star and moving the dead body of a young woman, undetected

  • There is video of Lilly driving, which figured into the investigation last year

If so, we have to get the Oscar to the Kane home. It works for me, as Aaron might even have noticed that the Oscar went missing, before he noticed the tapes went missing. We don't have to take last year's flashbacks as truth--just as the way in which Veronica pieced it all together.

Honestly? I can't figure out how they can i.d. Duncan's hair. Did he ever give any sort of DNA sample in the Lilly investigation, in season 1 or S1 flashbacks? All I can remember from season 1 is how determined his folks had been to cover his involvement, so I can't imagine they ever let such a thing happen, but I could just be forgetting.